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Summary

Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.

His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.

Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.

Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.

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[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Trump doesn't care, but on the other hand I really don't think he is a Russian asset.

Russia is playing their negotiating well. They have projected strength and total commitment to their claimed goals. They were able to do it, because of the diplomatic blunders by the Trump administration. Until now US have not said anything about Russian concessions. They were mentioned, but nothing specific.

On the other side, the Ukrainians will never accept anything close to what the Russians want. Even if America tries to force the conditions on them, they will still have some support from Europe.

Trump wants this. I mean, let's get serious, if he does it, he could legitimately expect the Nobel prize. I'm not even joking, if he does, he would be an idiot savant of peacemaking. It's highly unlikely though, but what is his way out?

[-] Docus@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago

Trump does not have the cards to force a peace deal, or the skills to negotiate one. Ukraine and Putin are simply too far apart to meet in the middle.

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I'm convinced Trump is chasing the nobel peace prize because Obama has one and he's still butt hurt over it.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Only a cuck would concede anything to Putin, and Trump is king cuck.

[-] cool@lemmings.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Ukraine doesn't have much a choice because they're losing the war.

Part of losing a war is making concessions with the victor. Sorry you've been so propagandized to believe that it's impossible for Ukraine to lose.

[-] dzso@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

The war is still being fought. No one has won.

[-] cool@lemmings.world 2 points 16 hours ago
[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Thats completely naive. Reality doesn't work like memes. People are dying, lives are being destroyed.

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Definitely not skills. But both sides in the war want to have a strong start to the negotiation. Ukraine might give up Crimea officially for NATO membership. Russia will do anything that will look like they won.

[-] cool@lemmings.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I disagree. Ukraine is currently getting routed and they will announce their surrender this year if the US continues to withhold support.

The thing about war is that each death makes it harder to fight back. That results in more deaths, which makes it even harder, and hopefully you get the idea if you're not a useful idiot (sorry this last part needs to be said, but there's a lot of useful idiots running around these days.)

[-] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

A country can be losing but in an existential conflict seem to rarely outright surrender. Ukraines position, while dire, is far stronger than the talibans after the US invasion of Iraq. 20 years later, they were still fighting and ultimately prevailed.

In my mind, this Inevitably is in ukraines future if allies don't continue to materially support Ukraine - either way the Russian occupation ultimately fails, the question is does Ukraine defend itself and remain a sovereign nation or do they fall and an insurgency later force it's reinstatement.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

This comment is mentally challenged

[-] cool@lemmings.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Not really. You're probably not used to people having their own ideas, though.

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