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Summary

Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.

His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.

Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.

Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.

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[-] cool@lemmings.world 3 points 2 days ago

Ukraine doesn't have much a choice because they're losing the war.

Part of losing a war is making concessions with the victor. Sorry you've been so propagandized to believe that it's impossible for Ukraine to lose.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

There are concensions and then there's functionally disarming so you can be attacked even more easily in 5 years.

[-] cool@lemmings.world 2 points 9 hours ago

What do you mean "more easily attacked"?

Ukraine losing the war means it's no longer a sovereign state.

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I'm sorry, but saying that everyone else who doesn't agree with you is propagandized is at least lazy if not childish and trolling behavior.

Ukraine is still in it, they are holding of the invading army, which has in the last year only managed to occupy less than a percent of Ukraine and even that has largely stopped. At this rate, if Russia could keep it up, they couldn't achieve their claimed goals for decades. And there are all the reasons to claim they won't be able to keep it up.

There is no sense to give to Russia concessions, the Russians cannot take by force. Usually it's the other way around.

[-] cool@lemmings.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You != Everyone else

Ukraine is still in it, they are holding of the invading army, which has in the last year only managed to occupy less than a percent of Ukraine and even that has largely stopped. At this rate, if Russia could keep it up, they couldn’t achieve their claimed goals for decades. And there are all the reasons to claim they won’t be able to keep it up.

Yeah, you've been propagandized hard.

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

No, you have been propagandized harder! 🙄

[-] cool@lemmings.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Did you also think Ukraine was going to retake Crimea?

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Do you have putins picture over your need?

See, both of us can play this dumb game.

[-] cool@lemmings.world 1 points 5 hours ago

What dumb game? Where I point out how you fell for propaganda before and then you get mad and say I love putin or something?

This just further proves my point about you being propagandized.

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago
[-] cool@lemmings.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Hope you can learn from this when it's all said and done.

[-] dzso@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The war is still being fought. No one has won.

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