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[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

i'm not going to get into a debate about it, because i have better things to do, sorry.

i would agree that the USSR was socialist, but very quickly stopped being so, and now it is capitalist. that's not what i call a success.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair enough, but I would say that examining what went right and what went wrong is an imporant duty for any socialist examining the USSR not just dismissing it outright. Many of the issues and problems with Soviet Union can be applied to any country building socialism as can many of the benefits. So we must learn what to keep and what to leave aside, as it remained Socialist until the very end of its existence.

And for what it's worth, I reccommend that first link I sent. I think what I described in that could be useful for you.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

i still think you're assuming what my actual, real-life views are from a silly what-if scenario! i am never gonna be in control of anything more powerful than a barbeque.

but if somehow i got to mind control the president or something, yes, i'd take advantage of that brief control to eliminate as many capitalists as possible

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

You can't just kill Socialism into existence, though. That's Idealism, not Materialism. That removes the entire process of Historical Materialism, and erases the foundations of Scientific Socialism, as opposed to Utopianism. I recommend reading or revisiting Socialism: Utopian and Scientific.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

i wouldn't be trying to will socialism into existence, though, i'd just be having a little fun :3

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That's "tankier" than the "tankies" you demonize, though. Kinda just confused here.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

and now it is capitalist.

The USSR hasn't existed for 35 years you arrogant fucking western dipshit.

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