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[-] cogman@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago

It's very frustrating.

What I've seen when I bring what's happening up to family members step one is denial "oh he's not doing that" step 2 is defend "well it's probably for the best, kids do yern for the mines".

Nothing is convincing.

[-] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago

Stages of grief. Most are just getting to denial.

My 90 year old grandma has moved onto bargaining. She's trying to write a letter to DJT to "warn him about Musk"

Not bad progress, considering I couldn't get her to budge at all over the past decade.

[-] gabbath@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Stages of grief

Exactly. It doesn't only apply to grief — any major change of beliefs will need to go through this process... unfortunately.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

That's kind of adorable.

I remember a moment before the election in 2016. A family member was going off on a Trump worshiping rant. I asked them what they thought of all the awful things that come out of his mouth. They responded with, "Oh, he's just saying that stuff because he likes to get attention."

I quoted a passage from Luke's gospel. "The good person out of the good treasure of the heart produces good, and the evil person out of evil treasure produces evil; for it is out of the abundance of the heart that the mouth speaks."

What happened next was amazing. They kind of paused and stared at their shoes with this expression that, if I could put words to it, would have said, "Shit. He's got me there. How do I get around this one?" They then looked up, physically shrugged it off; like water off a ducks back. That stopped the rant but I knew that If they had to choose between Jesus and this particular version of the anti-christ, their choice was already made and it wasn't Jesus.

[-] AloneYogurt@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

It doesn't help that they have literally been programmed by right and far right propaganda that only influences and reinforces that mentality of "unity".

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago

the media titans know what they're doing

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

And Cambridge Analytica

[-] margaritox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I’m a member of a lot of hiking communities on FB. Prior to Trump second presidency, they would blame any kind of problems related to insufficient budgeting to “ sending all money to Ukraine”. Now that he’s the president, and is BLATANTLY cutting budgets to national parks and forests, I see his supporters say “ it’s too bad we donated so much money to the national parks of Ukraine” or “ if Biden did this, you wouldn’t be complaining”, or some version of “ this is necessary, nothing really changed”.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 9 points 1 day ago

It's also defending the cult leader mentality. Breaking with the cult puts you on the outside, and an enemy of the cult. Breaking free of a cult isn't easy when the cult's actions are constantly being reinforced and regurgitated by their leader and his media disinformation networks.

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