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Thunderbird "won't be adopting the firefox terms of use" (mastodon.online)

submitted 3 days ago by Cris_Color@lemmy.world to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Oh...

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

The Vivaldi browser has an inbuild Mail client, which share nothing to third parties. Vivaldi is complete independent from third party investors and share nothing with other companies.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago

Vivaldi? The closed source browser? How do you know it shares nothing?

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Because it's an independent employee owned cooperative from Norway, without any extern investors. It don't need to share data to make money. It's business model is different from sharing userdata.

At Vivaldi Technologies AS (“Vivaldi AS”), protecting your privacy is a top priority. We strictly protect the security of any and all personal information you provide to us while using Vivaldi products and services. We do not share or sell information to any third party and we proactively protect all user data from disclosure, with the only exception being if requested by legitimate law agencies with a court order.

Tests (Webbkoll, Blacklight)

It is currently much more important to promote EU products to break the hegemony of the great US corporations. Vivaldi (Norway), along with Mullvad (Sweden) and Konqueror (Germany) are the only relevant browsers in the EU, after the disconinuated since some years UR Browser (France). As said, Vivaldi also include an inbuild Mail client and Feed reader, so are no need to use Thunderbird or other extern app.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

I very much agree with this. Not all closed software means it's "evil". Look at obsidian for example that's closed source but ut has a widely accepted user base nonetheless. Vivaldi is a great browser choice and way within my "threat model" at least.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

That is the point, it's not so important that a few % of the UI source of an browser is proprietary or not, way more important for the user are the ethics and transparency of an company

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah! Obviously not for everyone - but i do think people should re-consider their initial judgments. Just like I recently decided to switch to Fastmail away from Proton. I did some research around Fastmail, and to me, their missions and values won me over. For example, they help develop open standards such as jmap over imap. They own all of their own hardware - and encrypt all data at rest. Might not suit everyone, but defo suits me well and it's been a very nice experience so far.