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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How about the rare earth materials as well as much more expensive metals in the motor and electronics construction? An ICE engine is well understood and you can pick up a higher performing aluminum block and head crate motor for ~$13k or so. The higher trim Tesla motors are ~$20k, and they can have up to four motors. That’s a huge difference.

E: y’all downvoting…why? OEM electric motors for cars like a Tesla are expensive AF whereas you can get a relatively inexpensive ICE (~$7k for a base model V8 crate motor). That’s retail, not the manufacturer internal price.

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

China has more rare earth deposits than the US but that's a bit misleading. Rare earths show up in trace amounts all over the world. China has them in higher concentrations.

The bigger issue is that China has been the main refiner of rare earths for decades. That means they have all the infrastructure for actually making it available and they've developed a bunch of technologies and processes to do it way cheaper and more efficiently than anyone else can.

I don't know the pricing specifics of EV motors but I have some familiarity with electric motors, in general. The technology hasn't really changed much in a long time. We've have 3 phase motors and hall effect sensors for ages. They're better than older electric motors but the huge technology leap, that made EVs practical, was the batteries.

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