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[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago

Blue states need to start up their own shadow government, fund their own shit.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

Californian here.

We should stop paying federal taxes.

We have a ton of money, a ton of military installations, and 1 in 8 Americans IS a Californian. Washington and Oregon join us, and we'd be in even better shape. Canada can get in on the action too.

A felon rapist traitor and his traitor party is making our Constitution irrelevant. Time to start looking out for ourselves.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

WA state here - it's ridiculous that I have to subsidize chuds in Mississippi and Louisiana when they won't even give their citizens human rights. they're all about fiscal responsibility until it comes to paying their own fucking bills.

edit: love the chudvotes, do we have some cranky MS and LA types? pay your fucking bills jerkfaces. fuck, half your budgets come from federal funds we pour more into.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Federal taxes don't actually work that way. The federal government prints its own money. All taxes effectively go into a giant shredder and are unrelated to spending.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

I don’t even know where to begin correcting such an insane statement. Why do you think k taxes are collected if it just gets shredded? Sadistic pleasure?

[-] didnt1able@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

He makes a good point, it's just to balance the inflation. Take the tax money to offset the federal reserve printing swathes of money to fund government endeavors.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It's a real theory. From what I understand though the shredder is a thought experiment, not meant to be taken seriously. They do acknowledge that you have to receive money to spend money. they just think of it like a balancing act instead of a 1 to 1 relationship.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

You don't need to receive money to spend money if you print money. The purpose of taxation is to reduce the monetary supply.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In one specific economic theory.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm pointing out that it's a whole debate.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

You guys need to go hang with Hawaii. Alaska can come too.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago
[-] dontpanic 2 points 1 month ago

It’s an old meme, but it checks out.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

If we are going to do a tax protest we will need some kind of guarantees from the state government. Otherwise going to war with the IRS will not work. The IRS always wins.

[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure that's feasible, since the states don't just sign a check to the Feds once a year, it's paid via payroll taxes. To my knowledge, there is no kind of mechanism for entire states to collectively refuse payment.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago

isn't that kind of the idea of states? Them having their own budgets?

[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well, yes, but I meant they to pool their budgets amongst themselves, like a mini federal government.

[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 6 points 1 month ago

That costs money in state taxes, and the GOP is working on reducing the state and local tax deductions in the federal tax code. Making states who are trying to create good living conditions for their citizens prohibitively expensive to live in. It's horse shit.

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