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submitted 6 days ago by grue@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26223998

Housing Rule

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[-] SnotFlickerman 120 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
  • Yes. Yes. We played video games or read books or had to have our parents drive us to a park or walked the whole way (no sidewalks) there.

  • Because our officials are incompetent. Yes. Yes.

  • See above on lobbying from oil and car companies.

  • Because the word "commie" is scary to Americans from decades of indoctrination and the "nuclear family" having their own home is the biggest lie in the "American Dream."

  • Because of zoning laws. Refer to the above about incompetent officials. Yep, it is simply not possible and legal.

  • Americans care way more about appearances than actually having things be useful. What can I say, we're fucking coddled.

Hope this helps. It's valid to still be baffled at such.

[-] minnow@lemmy.world 110 points 6 days ago

incompetent

No, malicious. Racist in fact.

Suburbs were intentionally designed to be hostile to families without a car. This created a financial barrier to living in the suburbs, organically weeding out "undesirable" (aka non-white) families. Yes this also meant that many white families also couldn't afford to move to the suburbs, but that was a downside the rich white racists were willing to accept if it meant keeping most non-white families out.

[-] SnotFlickerman 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You're absolutely right but I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say malicious/racist and incompetent are not mutually exclusive from one another.

[-] minnow@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago
[-] Sergio@slrpnk.net 18 points 6 days ago

many white families also couldn’t afford to move to the suburbs, but that was a downside the rich white racists were willing to accept

I think this was a feature, not a downside. (I agree with the rest of your post tho)

[-] loweffortname 11 points 6 days ago

Add in redlining and you've got yourself a good ol' American suburb!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 46 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
  • Americans care way more about appearances than actually having things be useful. What can I say, we're fucking coddled.

But that is the strange part to me: its appearance is awful. A big garden full of plants is much nicer looking than only grass.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 18 points 6 days ago

So many Americans get rock hard about their lawns, and demand that everyone else does as well. There is no logic to it

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Two pet theories I have about this

  1. it is profitable for big chemical companies and whatever lobby makes the lawnmowers and weed whackers for everyone to have these big lawns that need to be maintained via mowing and pesticides. There are breeds other than bluegrass that don't grow that tall, chiefly buffalo grass, with deeper roots that make it generally more healthy, less patchy, less susceptible to weeds, etc.

  2. It is convenient for the ruling class that we have to do all this maintenance individually, leaving us less time (and wealth) to organize and build community/alternative modes of governance. Divide and conquer and all that.

OK I lied here's a 3rd:

  1. Western society is pretty much defined by our need to control nature/the world around us in outright denial of any consequences that might arise from doing so.
[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago
[-] aeternum 2 points 5 days ago

I saw a case of a guy who was being prosecuted for having unruly lawn. The kicker? He was elderly with cancer, and his son used to do it, but he went away for a while and no one was doing it. The judge said, and I quote: "You should be ashamed of yourself. If i could give you jail time, I would. Why should the neighbours have to look at that?". HE WAS ELDERLY AND CANCER RIDDLED.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

Ah okay, that explains it.

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