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Israel drops leaflets threatening Gazans to 'leave or die'
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Biden decided it was more important to send billions in weapons to israel as they committed genocide than to listen to protestors, so much so that he thought it was worth losing their votes over it. Harris continued with the same rhetoric. You're ignoring over a year of things getting worse and worse in Palestine while insisting that somehow the democrats ignoring voters during an election when they need the votes are somehow going to make things better when they don't need the votes. You're admonishing people protesting against genocide in order to defend a party that has authorized billions in weapons to israel as they're committing genocide, with Biden even bypassing congress to do so. Think about it.
It's nice to see centrists finally object to the genocide they cheered for a solid year under Bidenyahu.
STOP FUXKING PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK FOR FUCKS SAKE. All you’re doing is driving a wedge between people who oppose the genocide. Do you support the genocide? Because shit like this makes it seem like you love it because you get to say “pfft. Well this is on those people over there and I was sooo right.”
Why is this so fucking important to you? Shut the fuck up with this. Every single time there is horrifying news about Gaza. You pull out the blaming stick to say “this is the fault of thise people who didn’t like the genocide!” Shut the fuck up this isnt about you and how fuxking right your vote was.
Do something better. If you actually give a shit. Because it’s very possible you don’t and are more concerned with labeling yourself as having been right and washing your hands of the situation
For fucks sake
Stop driving a wedge into people who drove a wedge.
Quit calling out the bullshit that led us here.
If you can’t stop aiding genocide when you have the legal authority to do so, you probably won’t do anything for democracy.
…and here we are
Uno reverse take: not voting help the tangerine terror who will level Gaza
Gaza was already leveled prior to the 2024 election. On Gaza, no vote mattered. Lip service or the honest cruelty of it all. There are plenty of reasons to hate trump (this still being one of them), but if you think any US president was gonna actually put a stop to this…lol
You would have preferred a non-US president?
I would prefer that the US president follow the laws and the will of the people
Edit: and in the instance of Gaza, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law
And when the US president doesn't do that, what will you do?
We spent over a year using every means of pressure we had to bend the party and all we had to show for it was more billions for Israel. Nothing would have changed if we voted for the party that spent the last year ignoring our demands.
Instead, you got the party that sent 2000 lbs bombs and wants to eradicate the people of Gaza so he can build some casinos.
If you bomb a refugee camp with one 2000lbs bomb or two 1000lbs bombs, will it make any practical difference for the women and children who have their bodies blown apart or burn to death?
You're arguing against a straw man. They've been using 2000lb bombs the whole time anyway.
Biden floated a plan to displace all the Palestinians in Gaza too, but he was unable to get any Arab country to go along with it.
Trump will face the same obstacles.
Biden was already sending loads and loads of bombs for over a year
That would be both of them. By June 2024 Reuters was reporting that the US had sent Israel 10,000 of the 2000 lbs bombs.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-sent-israel-thousands-2000-pound-bombs-since-oct-7-2024-06-28/
Nothing would have changed? Hahahahaha. Well you got your change. Congrats on creating even more dead Palestinian children. You seem weirdly proud of having their blood on your hands.
So almost until Biden left office, Israel was killing an average of 100 to 300 Palestinians a day. What do you think would have magically changed, if Biden had continued into a second term, or Harris had taken over who had vowed to continue Bidens policies?
You claim the Democrats would have suddenly ended their policies of over one year of genocide, despite stating the opposite. Can you please point me to the evidence that this would have happened?
As @queermunist@lemmy.ml pointes out, Biden tried to fo for ethnic cleansing in 2023. When that met the resistance of the surrounding countries, he decided to escalate to murdering as many Palestinians he could get away with without sparking a revolt in the US.
The only difference in policy is that Trump is speaking the quiet part out loud.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/2/biden-under-pressure-to-act-amid-new-fears-of-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/01/08/biden-gaza-restrain-israel-hamas-ethnic-cleansing/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/1/bidens-israel-funding-request-gets-scrutiny-hits-early-hurdle
https://truthout.org/articles/rights-groups-say-bidens-israel-funding-request-would-finance-ethnic-cleansing/
https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2023/10/14/can-egypt-be-persuaded-to-accept-gazan-refugees
The ceasefire is still ongoing, despite Israel's provocations. I know you're horny for more genocide so you can feel good about being "right" about the lesser evil, but so far the number of dead children has dramatically decreased since Biden was in office.
The reporting on it has certainly decreased, but I don't think either you nor I can say this is true with any amount of certainty.
Besides, "Israel is playing nice now that they have their ace in the White House" isn't really the big win you make it out to be. Biden continued shipping armaments, Trump is doing that and more as well as actively making plans with Netanyahu for the expulsion and destruction of Gaza.
The only way we were ever going to fix this from our side of the ocean was by putting a warhead on Netanyahu's forehead but that was never going to happen with either choice.
Israel isn't just playing nice, the ceasefire is ongoing. Hamas wouldn't play along if it was all fake. Every day Gaza isn't being turned into rubble is a win and lives are being saved.
Yes, Israel is doing this because they want to help Trump. That doesn't mean the ceasefire isn't a good thing.
Israel will face justice for its crimes, but that will happen regardless which demon gets elected president of the Great Satan.
When and where?
When the US can no longer protect them. The empire is clearly in decline.
In the very land they stole. The Resistance was not defeated, after all.
Tell me what Biden or Kamala would have done different? Remember all the red lines that functionally did nothing to US policy?
It was under biden that, we estimate because we can't know, that ~500,000 gazans died. It was under biden that we continued to send bombs to israel even as Israel pushed the entire population into a concentration camp next to egypt.
Gaza was already under a dictator. Way to go Biden and Kamala, instead of giving a single fuck about your electorate loudly told you, you sucked the teet of pro-israel donors and it lost the election.
You fucks keep spouting this drivel but are weirdly quiet about what's happening currently. Sure, many more Palestinian children are going to die because of your tantrum but if you just keep throwing the tantrum maybe you won't have to look at the blood on your hands.
This question was not answered.
It won't be, because libs don't have an answer for this, they just want a more polite genocider in office
You are literally saying "you're being quiet while throwing a tantrum". Which is it, am I being quiet or noisy? Or is this some sort of weird quiet tantrum?
Yeah, look at how effective your strategy of running from responsibility has been. You and the DNC's policy of blaming progressive voices IS what lost them this election. How about you keep doing that louder. Maybe you can go strike a deal with the Republicans to level just half of Gaza. Because that's what Democrats in Congress are currently talking about. They are pissed, not because they lost, but because their constituents are calling them demanding they do more.
Because what's currently happening is ONLY possible because of that Biden and Harris did. It's liberals that were quiet about genocide occurring because their preferred flavor of fascism was doing it, and you want to talk about blood on your hands?
And they apparently think Ukrainian children are worthless.
Where are you getting this? You're the only one mentioning Ukraine.
Yes we understand that it's very important to you that no one mentions any of the side effects of your behavior. Your tantrum about Biden taking the hardest foreign policy stance with Israel in decades not being enough needs to justify the fact that you're all in here gloating about how much harm you were able to cause. More genocide in more places. Your goal of more genocide, in more places, happening faster has been achieved, you evil pricks.
There's really no reason to give genocide supporters like you the benefit of the doubt at all. Even if you're just a cry baby with no understanding of foreign policy, it's not a good enough excuse for the blood on your hands anymore.
Oh christ. Get new ridiculous lies.
I’ve heard very little about the Ukrainian genocide. Oddly these people so upset about Gaza never noticed that Trump would eagerly enable Russia to “finish the job”, as Trump said about Gaza.
Trump is talking about seizing Gaza and make it into resorts and we still get “JORR BIDEN”.
It's neat watching centrists get mad that trump is implementing their only policy.
Are you interested in others being able to participate in democracy or are you only interested in commanding others to vote for your preferences?
Think only having these two unreasonable options to choose from is unfair and not a real choice? Me too, thanks.
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You sure rattled the monkey cage with this one
That's funny, everyone, everyone know they don't give a fuck what we have to say. They were willing to lose an election before listening to what we had to say. It was able time people held them accountable for refusing to represent our demands. Liberals refusing to listen gave us another round of Trump
I wonder why we don’t hear “genocide don”? People wouldn’t shut the fuck up for like a year with the “genocide Joe” shit.
I tried explaining what you’re saying to those people dozens of times - Trump would be same or worse in Gaza, this is not the election to “teach the dems a lesson” with, and Trump will be far worse on a dozen other very important issues. Barely got one reasonable response, usually just “so you love gennercide!!” Either shills for Trump or very stupid.
I find your windy post confusing, but I think the issue is that Biden is not “better” than Trump on Gaza, just possibly “less bad.” And they are much closer to one another on this issue than most others. Every election you see the two parties compete to show who can bow down to Israel the most.