2168
Erasure (mander.xyz)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The main reason I'm against "Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion in the hiring process" is it makes the average minority at a company worse compared to their white male peers, which is a horrible situation that breeds further racism.

My girlfriend is a visible minority in a STEM field. If people look at her and think "DEI hire", that's harmful, not helpful.

[-] gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They could look at her and potentially think "DEI hire," or they could not think about her at all because she wasn't hired due to some factor relating to her racial background. What bass-ackwards logic.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

or they could not think about her at all because she wasn't hired

Lmao thanks for implying my girlfriend wouldn't get a job without being a minority you racist

[-] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

That's not how I read it at all. You're so close to figuring out why POCs need DEI. You GF can't get a job without DEI because of racism. Regardless of her skill or experience. DEI forces employers to look beyond skin colour.

[-] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

This guy is desperate for a troll

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Are you aware of, like, all of American history?

[-] prole 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Your girlfriend works with racists. That's not the fault of DEI.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

How is it racist if the bar is lower for minorities? They will be able to get the job at lower performance

[-] prole 2 points 6 days ago

That's literally not how DEI works. Inform yourself.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

?? I've worked in hiring and seen a meeting where managers were informed of a new goal to make teams "50% diverse". You also literally ignored the content of my other comment that included a source.

Inform yourself

Unless you can articulate extremely well how DEI works, I'm going to (likely correctly) assume you're not informed

[-] prole 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

When faced with two evenly matched employees, choose the one that increases diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace.

The candidates are equally qualified... If a straight, white, male candidate is more qualified than a black lesbian woman, then nothing is stopping them from going with the white dude. DEI is only meant to come into play when the candidates are equal in all other aspects.

If you've experienced it done wrong, that's a bummer... Doesn't mean we should do away with it completely. Worst case, we end up erring on the side of having more diversity. Oh no. How awful.

The current and historical framework has meant that straight, white, dudes are the default. So if we're "accidentally" going the other way sometimes, then I can live with that. I say this as a straight, white, male.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Tbh I agree with this framework

[-] prole 2 points 6 days ago

Congrats, you agree with DEI.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

DEI was implemented because without it, equally qualified minorities don't get hired, there's been endless studies on this. Stop falling for racist propaganda.

[-] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

“Racist people use DEI as an excuse to be racist therefore DEI is bad.”

[-] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

So you think everyone should act in accordance with how while male peers think or act in a way that makes them not think "DEI Hire".

I have news for you: those people will find excuses to exclude POC regardless of DEI

[-] prole 2 points 1 week ago

Makes them worse? What the fuck does that even mean?

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I never said it "makes them worse", read it again

this post was submitted on 14 Feb 2025
2168 points (100.0% liked)

Science Memes

12384 readers
1479 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.



Research Committee

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS