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submitted 1 week ago by foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Is matrix good to use, seen a lot of drama around it. For example hackliberty.org left it because of lacking of security and moderation, do you still recommended it?

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[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

The protocole is fine I think the real problem is the synapse implementation but I could be wrong on that take I am no expert.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago

While Synapse isn't great, the problem is that the Matrix protocol is over-designed for a very specific purpose (distributed rooms), that comes with a severe performance penalty but most people don't actually need this for chat.

Its one of these cases of a neat idea on paper, but ultimately a solution looking for a problem.

That said, Matrix isn't that bad overall, but there are better options like XMPP.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

XMPP is SOOO much easier to admin.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah. Would have been much better if it was an option for a group admin - choosing several servers at a time to host if they wanted redundancy. Not forcing it on everyone participating, regardless of their disk size...

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

Well... there has been some recent museings about something like that from the CEO of Element, but it would effectively cause a two class federation where some servers can not work independently of others (likely in reality mainly servers running on EMS infrastructure, a bit like how in Bluesky you can't really work fully independent of their infra, and yes Bluesky was explicitly mentioned as inspiration for that idea).

Having those two options fully independent would basically mean reimplenting xmpp in json as an incompatible alternative protocol and that would make little sense IMHO.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

What is the source for this? Wonder just how worried we should be...

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some comment by the Element CEO on Hackernews, sorry I don't have a link right now.

But since it would be optional I am not sure why you worry about that. It wouldn't change the status quo, which is already bad.

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