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[-] jodanlime@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

Google goes full mask off. What a terrible look. This is it, this is what I needed to see to make the final push to move away from Google. My next phone will probably be an iPhone, and I'm not excited about it. I've almost completely degoogled my android device, I'm testing immich right now and the only things left that I rely on are maps and YouTube. I also buy a lot of my ebooks and comics from Google, but never again. There's no way I'm buying a phone that's supported by Google after this change. There's no way I'm spending any amount of money on Google play at this point, or any other Google owned platform. Zero. And it really sucks, because android is the closest thing we have to an open phone platform. Maybe someday a GNU/Linux phone will actually be viable, but today it isn't and that only leaves me running to Apple as a savior. It's too bad that Google can't compete on a technology level, instead of gargling Trump's balls.

APPLE?

THEY DONATED MILLIONS TO TRUMP'S INAUGURAL FUND

There is no ethical consumption undercapitalism. Google, Apple, whatever, its all the same evil, "pick your poison" situation.

(This map rename is tame in comparison to the political donations that EVERY corporation does. You'll have to boycott like almost every company if you want to avoid that)

[-] hanke@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago

For replacing youtube, use https://grayjay.app/

Also, why do you leave your de-googled device? Just don't pay for stuff on their store and use alternative stores with anonymous access like Aurora store or just go full f-droid.

I use iodéOS and am very happy with it. Easy de-googled life.

[-] jodanlime@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Grayjay is nice, not perfect but getting better all the time. I won't buy a new device because of this, I unfortunately just purchased a new phone on a Black Friday deal. But there is no way in hell I'm going to inflate android's user base with my next device purchase. That's where I draw the line, no more Google hardware or software purchases. Zero. I'm sure as fuck not buying a Pixel, or buying anything through Google's marketplace. I'm not buying another Android device, and I'm not sure if there is anything that could change my mind at this point. Google is dead to me after this.

It's important to remember that Google is an adtech business first and foremost. It's basically the only way they can generate cash. ADtech relies on user counts and active users to negotiate prices and other business deals. I'm not helping Google facilitate those business practices in the future. Buying a used pixel and putting Graphene on it sounds great in principle, but you are 110% adding yourself to the pool of Google pixel users, inflating the value of Google's advertising business. You don't get to opt out of that user count, even if you are 101% 'degoogled' your are going to be counted as a Google phone owner. Because you would be.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Pinephone + dumb phone is a valid option though. The only thing my pinephone struggled with was calls/sms, so the dumb phone handles that.

Does pinephone even have verified boot / secure boot?

Also, dumbphones are much more susceptable to malware.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

How do they get malware, you don't even connect them to the internet

[-] jodanlime@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

I fully believe that combination works well. I also fully believe that if you asked a random person off the street to trade in their smartphone for two devices that only have partial functionality you would get told to go F yourself. I don't think it's a 'valid' option in 2025, and I would love to know what the average person on the street would say if they actually hear you out on all the benefits. I'm a 'tech enthusiast' I guess and a long time FOSS lover. I have been daily driving Linux for over 15 years at this point. I'm not sure if I would put up with two half-phones in my pockets all day everyday, and I know my friends would laugh at the idea. I almost purchased a PinePhone on more than a few orders from the Pine store but I keep holding off for thing to become stable enough to use the phone as a phone.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

Yeah I now only use the dumb phone on a day to day.

this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2025
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