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[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 20 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't the planet rapidly start to cool? I think we'd be dead by morning

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

Atmosphere would hold the heat for a bit, the real issues will begin with food shortages because the crops won't grow

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah but how long is a bit? Also, without the gravity center of our solar system, how long would it take for all the planets to start drifting off into the void?

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

A bit - probably weeks to months. For the second question - 8 minutes for the Earth, since gravity propagates at the speed of light

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Expanding a little on the last part, Earth's orbital velocity is about 29.8 km/s so that's the speed at which we would suddenly be leaving the former location of the solar system in a direction that depends on what time of year it happened. Regardless of direction though, the escape velocity of the Milky Way around where we are is about 544 km/s so there's no way we'd be leaving the galaxy. On the other hand the plane of the galaxy is only about 6 degrees off from the galactic center at the moment, so if this happened at the right time of year (don't know when that is) we could launch somewhat towards the core. We would not however get very close to it because the sun's own orbital velocity is about 230 km/s so we'd still be in close to the same galactic orbit overall, just potentially a bit more eccentric.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Do you think Jupiter would take over as our center of the solar system? Hopefully it doesn't sling us into deep space or another planet

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It wouldn't sling us into deep space because we are in deep space and will continue to be in deep space.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

I meant like away from the rest of our planets. Space= above earth. Deep space= beyond solar system. No one considers earth space

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Other planets would just fly off depending on where they were in their orbit relative to us.

But saying we're flying off to deep space makes no sense because the solar system is the area around the sun. No sun = no distinction.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dude.. Are you trying to be overly pedantic? I am talking about our system as a whole sans sun

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm trying to explain how that concept makes zero sense.

Well, I'm not any more, doubt you'll get it at this point, but that was the gist of my previous replies.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So... Solar system you get, but if I refer to it as a "system" now you get confused? I was struggling with a term that wasn't just "all of the planets that used to be part of the solar system but since the sun is gone there is no longer a system"

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

The core is still hot. If we bury ourselves deep underground, there is a chance the humanity could survive for thousands of years without a sun. If not humanity, then some sort of life will survive long enough for future archeologists to find it millions of years later.

But don't quite me on this; I'm simply reciting from memory something I read in National Geographic or a similar publication 10-20 years ago. IDK how true this actually is.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, something will live, but I was more thinking surface life.

[-] philthi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Doesn't the earth itself provide a significant amount of heat from the core? I'm sure I read somewhere that for something like every 10 meters down you dig, the temperature raises by 1° celcius. So maybe we'd not notice a temperature drop so quickly?

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

The surface would eventually freeze over. But some life would almost definitely survive deep underground and underwater, near geothermal vents not unlike those that hosted the first lifeforms on Earth. And, maybe, in some billions or trillions of years, Earth would stray near another star system, get captured by its gravity and slowly thaw out, restarting the evolution of life.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Would hydrothermal vents produce enough heat? Or would the oceans freeze over? And then would there just be thermal bubbles surrounding the vents in oceanic ice?

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

The oceans would eventually freeze over, but the deep ocean could stay liquid for tens of millions of years. Ice is a pretty good insulator, and there is more than one moon in the solar system suspected to have liquid oceans under a layer of ice.

[-] luce 3 points 1 month ago

Even if they were to, there is still the deep biosphere

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Fucking fascinating. Thanks for the share

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not sure how quick exactly, but the earth doesn't provide enough heat, not even close. Kurzgesagt has a video on a similar subject, without the ~~trillions~~ 1.7e17 Watts showering the earth every second we'd get awfully cold awfully quick. They are talking about slowly moving away from the sun, but they conclude it would get real icy

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

The moon also doesn't emit it's own light. It would take longer for the moon to "disappear" than it would for the sun but it wouldn't be the whole night.

[-] philthi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I agree with you, but also... I'm not sure that I'd notice that I could see the moon a few minutes ago and now I can't (unless I happened to be looking at it as it happened)... I feel like that is something that could be happening every single night and I've never noticed.

The sun disappearing is like... Super noticeable by comparison.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

You would notice the lack of light. The night isn't pitch black xD

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Most cities have brighter light pollution than the moon can provide.

[-] philthi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe if I lived in the countryside, here in a city, I only really notice the moon if I'm looking for it (which I do often, I love seeing our moon).

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

I live in the city and the moonlight is clearly noticeable so I guess it depends. I mean, a city can be considered as such with as little as 50k people so I guess that, statistically, the majority of people that live in a city would most certainly notice the lack of moonlight.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The moon is just a few light-seconds away from earth; that's why they could have conversations with ground control during the moon landings. Moon will go dark a few seconds after the sun.

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