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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[-] TheObviousSolution@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 2 years ago

So basically, still in denial about how Trump and Netanyahu are going to absolutely wipe out Gaza from history now while gaslighting'ing as hard as r/conservative. The overlap with the way Trump voters handle politics is astounding.

[-] moon@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Harrold felt confident that nobody would ever suspect his spy pigeon.

Americans had one vote, and you guys continue to gaslight what it effectively was, for Trump or against Trump. What it wasn't was an opportunity to change the system by making a political statement, and now all anyone who has fallen for this rhetoric has done is cemented where it's heading to now. To change it you would have had to work outside the system. Now, even attempting to do so is far more likely to get you locked up. Congrats.

[-] moon@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't worry, the US looks like US voters won't have to worry about being able to have any effective choice for much longer.

[-] prole 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

if a political party wants a group of people’s votes, they should court those people. If they fail to do so, and those people choose not to vote for them, the political party only has itself to blame

You seem to understand this, yet apparently cannot accept that you are not the only group that the party wants (read: needs) to court.

As shitty as it is, the Israel lobby has a stranglehold on politics in the US. Both major parties are beholden to them, and need to bend over backwards to try to keep these groups happy, otherwise their campaign is dead in the water. That is facts.

The reality is, in this case, those two groups are mutually exclusive. You cannot appease both (you will just end up alienating them all). One of those groups is much larger and far more influential than the other, and has the power and will to destroy your chances of winning.

They courted the second group because its literally the only possible way they can win.

Despite what lemmy might have you believe, leftist thought is not the default in most of the US.

Become big enough and influential enough that you need to be courted, otherwise they have no reason to give a shit what you think.

[-] moon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The opportunity of a lifetime passed before him as he tried to decide between a cone or a cup.

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Gaza had been getting wiped out by Biden supplied bombs for over a year. Trump wouldn't be able to talking about "rebuilding" gaza now if Biden hadn't already helped demolish it.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You’ve promoted trump as being the rebuilder of Gaza enough that all doubt regarding your motives here have been removed. 

You’ve purposefully left out the fact that he has recently agreed to send Israel $1BN and a fleet of bulldozers, (something even his **allies** are condemning as an attempt to “_ethnic cleanse_.”  Palestine) as part of an ultimatum where he told the Palestinians to either leave their homes forever, or become one with the craters their homes will become if they don’t.

The Olympic-level athletics it takes to side-step this fact and twist current events around to still make what is currently happening as being Biden’s fault while trying to posture trump as the one to fix things- can only be performed by someone…. let’s say, ”loyal”, enough to still believe his bullshit

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I put "rebuilding" in quotations because I know he doesn't have good intentions. You don't have to be a trump fan to hate genocide regardless of the perpetrator

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

Trump and Netanyahu are going to absolutely wipe out Gaza

The fact that it's already been entirely demolished from the Biden admin kindve nullifies this talking point though.

[-] prole 1 points 2 years ago

Once again, the West Bank doesn't exist.

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