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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago

Kamala supporters should look in the mirror and ask themselves why they're ok with their candidate enabling genocide

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 19 points 5 days ago

why they’re ok with their candidate enabling genocide

I don't think this is a fair analysis of any real person's position.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

May not be their mentality, but that is the reality when you show more contempt for those mad about said genocide enabling than for the figure you're advocating for despite them enabling genocide

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 5 days ago

That's a real comfort to all the genocide victims

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 5 days ago

It certainly isn't. Victims of genocide are unaffected by any individual's mindset. I fully agree with your position; I'm simply advocating for an exploration of that mindset to inform better future choices.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

She used the only power she had to try to negotiate a ceasefire. What you are saying simply isn't factual.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

The only thing she wanted to change about bidens administration was to add more Republicans, the same administration that was regularly sending arms to Israel. Palestinians weren't allowed to speak at the dnc. She had plenty of opportunities to show support for the Palestinian people, every time she supported Israel instead.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

She didn't add as many republicans as Trump did. Trump want to put American boots on the ground in Gaza for the US to take control. How many Palestinians did Trump allow to speak?

If those are your concerns, you chose poorly.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Nice deflecting from your rebutted "factually untrue"

To answer this new prompt, just because Trump supports genocide doesn't mean you needed to accept Kamala supporting genocide

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I chose not to engage with your strawman. It was not a rebuttal. She tried to negotiate peace. That's a fact. Trump wants to remove all Palestinians from Gaza and take it for the US. That is a fact.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There was no strawman. What did I say that was untrue?

Also

“True peace is not merely the absence of tension: it is the presence of justice.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

editI decided to go ahead and provide sources

The only thing she wanted to change about bidens administration was to add more Republicans,

https://www.cnn.com/politics/harris-2024-campaign-biden/index.html

the same administration that was regularly sending arms to Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-administration-planning-680-million-arms-sale-israel-source-2024-11-27/

Palestinians weren't allowed to speak at the dnc.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/dnc-palestine-uncommitted-speech-ruwa-romman-1235085916/

She had plenty of opportunities to show support for the Palestinian people, every time she supported Israel instead.

Can't really cite a source for this, I would actually need you to find an instance where she had an opportunity and didn't support Israel.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

A strawman isn't untrue. It's just irrelevant to the argument.

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