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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I find that argument weak partially because that was her just doing her job

Her job is the only official power she had and she used it to stop the killing and get hostages released. That is directly trying to stop the genocide. Saying otherwise is counterfactual

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

So you don't think her voice had any power? If no, that brings into question why she was picked for the role at all. And it's not "counterfactual" to say that the deals she was making was for pausing the genocide as opposed to stopping.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So you don't think her voice had any power?

Can you think of a time a VP came out and directly contradicted their President's foreign policy?

And it's not "counterfactual" to say that the deals she was making was for pausing the genocide as opposed to stopping.

Yes, that is counterfactual. Stopping the war was always the ultimate goal. Pauses were just the compromise.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

Can you think of a time a VP came out and directly contradicted their President's foreign policy?

Is that a good thing? Is that acceptable even when it includes standing by genocide? But when she's running her own campaign seems an excellent time to distinguish herself from her predecessor. Especially when she got that spot because polling showed Biden couldn't win. Even more when she's specifically asked what she'd have done differently per my source from earlier.

Yes, that is counterfactual. Stopping the war was always the ultimate goal. Pauses were just the compromise.

  1. The war will not stop as long as both exist. The past 75 years of conflict have shown that. The goal as stated was only ever going to end with pauses.

  2. That's still compromising with and defending the genociders. This evergreen meme

Also this quote feels relevant

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Is that a good thing?

It just is. It's an unspoken restriction of her job. Nobody gets elevated to that position unless they unequivocally back their boss.

The war will not stop as long as both exist.

So you're in favor of genocide, but just mad at which side is losing.

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