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submitted 2 days ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/fedimemes@feddit.uk

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yeaaa ookkk tankie, I'm sure those websites aren't biased and spreading propaganda/misinformation at all LMAO

you've been tagged

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So you’re denying Ukraine is doing this? Or am I a tankie for pointing it out? All it takes to be a tankie is pointing out someone is calling themself a Nazi?

You’ve taken this so far, you’re entering into Nazi sympathizer/collaborator territory.

The US Congress had to lift a ban on arming Nazis in order to send arms to Ukraine. Now tell me how it’s somehow my fault for pointing that out.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-us-weapons-azov-a3a555670bedeae2022900621d79aba7

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Do you guys read the sources you post or just the headlines?

Moscow has repeatedly portrayed the Azov as a Nazi group and accused it of atrocities, but has publicly given little evidence of the allegations.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, I am aware AP has been whitewashing for fascists for a while. But Congress is not bound by what Moscow believes. Congress had to lift the ban on arming Nazis to send Ukraine weapons, because it’s also what the US believes.

You know who also believes Ukraine is currently governed by a Nazi regime? The soldiers covering their uniforms in Nazis patches, the politicians naming streets after Nazis, and the Ukrainians openly declaring ‘I am a Nazi.’

[-] frank@frank.casa 11 points 1 day ago

If the Ukraine was so Nazi, why didn't Russia go to the UN and create a multi-country coalition to remove the Nazis and save the people?

And why would these Nazis elect a Jew?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They did: https://www.rferl.org/amp/us-ukraine-vote-against-russian-resolution-condemning-nazism-united-nations-/28125450.html

Modern Nazis are far more anti-Muslim than anti-Jew. Especially if that Jewish person is a Zionist, there’s a lot of overlap in their ideology.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Why would you discredit your own proof once it’s pointed out that it isn’t proof?

Why not link directly to Ukraine’s statement?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Let’s establish the goalposts, so you can’t move them later. What would be adequately convincing, beyond a military covered in Nazi symbols and Ukrainian politicians erecting monuments of Nazis?

How is it we can correctly identify Musk is a Nazi from a salute, but y’all struggle with this mountain of evidence?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe don’t say your own proof can’t be trusted and again use primary sources

[-] RidderSport@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

If taken at face value it sounds pretty much the same as the Hamas being a freedom-fighting group

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Please expand on that nonsense. How does that make sense in your brain?

[-] RidderSport@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Well you say that a Nazi-group stays a Nazi group even when they are fighting against an invader.

Does that work the same way for the Hamas? Once a terrorist group always one? Or are they a liberation army?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hamas was never a terrorist group. They are fighting an occupying force. By legal definition, they are a resistance group. A radical group, for sure, but the Israeli politicians created Hamas to prevent the secular Palestinian groups from achieving any peace agreements.

But I wouldn’t expect someone defending Nazis to understand that.

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