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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca

Debunk from dev Pierre-Loup Griffais ‪@plagman.bsky.social‬

"we've done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there's nothing meaningful to read into there."

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[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What does Valve actually need: sell a x86 SoC PC for extra-extra cheap... barely capable to run 720p60fpd high quality, and extremely well optimized, videogames such as Resident Evil4 Remake and latest Doom, bundle the SoC with those games to the point it may look as you're just buying regular bundled games but the PC to run it comes for free.

IE: 140€ to get Resident Evil Remake 2,3 and 4 for +the SoC: You just need to add the disk space (MictoSD/SSD) to download&run OS+games.

[-] Diffuser5593@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Thankfully you don't work at Valve.

[-] ne0phyte@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago

Does it come with a battery that's not rechargeable and only lasts for exactly one playthrough of the game after which you throw the whole thing in the trash?

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

IE: 140€

Dude, you can't even build a Raspberry Pi 5 based Retropie for that price. And the most you could run is emulated Gamecube games

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not a build, what I am thinking it's exactly as a raspberryPi5 is, just slightly more powerful. The idea is to kickstart sort of DIY PC console, in which Valve sell you just the very bare bones (CPU/GPU/ram and only strictly necessary I/O, just like the RPI5 board) + some key license for games to test things out, then anybody can build up whatever they want, even plugging an external GPU if so they desire.

edit: also this may be of interest

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Dude, no. A Raspberry Pi 5 is less powerful than a Steam Deck across the board. The only reason it could run DOOM at 4k in that video is because the guy hooked it up to an external GPU, and that external GPU costs several times more that a new Raspberry Pi.

Also, the Raspberry Pi 5 doesn't come with an SSD. If you're going to build your own boxed similar to what you're proposing, you'd need to buy a Raspberry Pi + SSD + case + interface cards between the parts that'll cost an addition $50-60. You're looking at around $300 for parts. Any commercial product would also have to factor in labor and some margin for profits.

At this point you're looking at a product that costs about the same as a base-model Steam Deck that isn't portable and has less computing power for playing games. Virtually no one would buy that.

If Valve did release a non-portable PC, they might use a higher-power version of the Steam Deck's APU at similar price points to the Steam Deck, filling the space that used to be occupied by Intel NUCs. But whatever they do, a non-portable system from them cannot be weaker than a Steam Deck. It would be completely rejected by most customers on that alone. And it cannot be dependent on an external GPU since those are a waste of money compared to just building a PC.

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