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And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is... interesting to say the least.

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[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 343 points 1 year ago

One comment mentions possible incompability with article 22 of the GDPR, and I sure hope the EU will stand their ground on this.

I can only imagine noyb letting all hell break loose. We need more people like him, dissecting corporations legal bs to find every last little thing we can possibly hold against them.

Obligatory use Firefox

[-] AmbroisindeMontaigu@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago

Let's hope there's already a law that the EU can find to apply (since they already don't like the non-EU dominance of big tech), or that they make one in time.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I was just thinking that I'm sure Google will lobby the US government to get this model enforced as law, making it illegal for anyone to create workarounds, or alternative browsers. And the US legislative government being what it is, will hand Google whatever legislation it wants to turn their nightmare into a reality.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

It is imperative to make as many people as possible aware

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[-] Engywuck@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Obligatory use Firefox

No way. Why should I feel obligated to use something I feel has inferior UX and UI than the browser I'm using now? For Mozilla's CEO to rais her wage (again): https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html ?

You people are really delusional if you really think that Mozilla are the only good guys (or good guys at all, for that matters).

Inb4, unimaginative people downvoting just because they can't stand different opinions.

[-] Teodomo@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's your alternative?

EDIT: Oh I just found in the profile. It's Brave. I used it for half a year before I got tired of the crypto ads sneaking into my home page's links no matter how many times I deleted them and of some other stuff. I prefer Firefox's UI. Also I don't expect any browser to be 100% ethical but Brave is below Firefox in that list for me

[-] Restaldt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

If you truly cared about the state of the internet youd only browse websites with wget and text editors

Or something

[-] dewritochan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

https://lynx.invisible-island.net/ come now, we don't have to be barbarians, there's text browsers out there

[-] Engywuck@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter and it's irrelevant here. I just despise Mozilla and their false morality. Use whatever you want.

[-] antisoma@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

It's not irrelevant since you stated Firefox is less good than what you are using now. Of course people are interested in a feasible alternative. So, since you introduced it, what are you using instead?

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

So you'll rather give in to blatant corporate greed?

What kind of Alt-Right logic is this?

[-] Engywuck@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't know I was so evil that I'm doing the world a worse place just because I prefer a different browser. And I'm ideologically far form alt-right, btw.

OTOH, talking about corporate greed:

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 48 points 1 year ago

that is a funny graph. Even assuming the data is true, it deliberately missrepresents market share as usage. Which pretty much neglects the fact hat maybe a person or two and a device with a browser or two have entered the market since then.

Also it does not have any information on source of the data, methodology, definition of the terms etc. So it is pretty much worthless as an argument.

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[-] Engywuck@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Nice detective skills. I have the opposite view about Brave/Mozilla. But fine, we can agree to disagree and still be (virtual) friends.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

Opposite view of what? Brave is peddling crypto bullshit

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago

We don’t wanna be friends with crypto-bros here.

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I downvoted you because you made a terrible case for yourself. Learn to make a salient point, or learn to love being "edgy". the choice is up to you, but the internet already has plenty of the latter, why not become the former?

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[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

I feel obligated to raise awareness about these topics. I won't prevent anyone from choosing Chrome, but at the very least it's important for people to know what their choice can entail, and base their decision on that.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

We also need to raise awareness about what giving google hegemony over defining what the web will be means.

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[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a huge difference between mozilla and google. That's quite obvious to most. The ceo raising his salary is a problem for you, and you prefer Google, where they have enormous salaries and incomes? It's one of the richest companies in the world.

Firefox doesn't have inferior UX at all. It has more functions and features than chrome. It also has very good default privacy and the plugin system is amazing.

And it just became faster than chrome as well.

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[-] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

Dude, look, I'm sorry Firefox killed your dog (or whatever). But please stop spamming your irrational hate-boner for Mozilla all over the thread.

[-] FoxBJK@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago

They're not saying you should feel obligated to use Firefox. It's a tongue-in-cheek joke about how everything FLOSS, Privacy or GDPR related always includes a comment thread about using Firefox. I use Brave too but you gotta read the room. Lemmy users in general are going to be much more pro-Firefox than anything else.

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[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

UX is not worse than Chrome, please shut up.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

With how shittily Chrome has been running for me lately, I'm feeling like making the switch to Firefox sooner and sooner.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess now is one of those famous best times to do it. If you want even more privacy and security ootb, you can try Librewolf. Recently released Mullvad Browser seems to be pretty up there too, at least from what I've read so far.

And if you're on Android, Mull is pretty much for Smartphones what Librewolf is for Desktops.

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[-] pizzaiolo@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

use Firefox

been doing that since I left Internet Explorer, aeons ago

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