But the situation the USA was in was one of minimizing overall damage

thats logical in a narrow scoping, but I think its reasonable to also consider the longer term effects of the 'left' party in the US continuing a track of far right wing actions over time and how that changes the Democratic party and likely destroys it. No one will vote for republican-lite or fascist lite-- those platforms always lose. The DNC doesn't understand that. Maybe occasionally a Dem leader goes off the rails and can be disavowed later, sure, but if the party stays evil for long enough, that option of disavowing the evildoers' mistakes goes away and sticks to all dems. The voter losses across all demographics in the last elections show we are at the point of losing the voters and with that our ability to win in the future. For now its still an option to disavow and explicitly reject Biden/Harris's actions, if we find the stones to throw the old pro-evil anti-lower and anti-middle class leadership out on their ass and admit they were wrong.

Sure the war crimes were destined to happen with either party after the election-- and I'd argue with similar severity. Both parties will let the zionists do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want. Both parties will also fund the zionists with weapons and money, and will run interference in the UN. But I'd rather they be done by the US republicans which gives us at least a chance to rescue the US Dems, which was badly in need of rescue. Rescue means disempowering the bad actors, which is now completed. Without a dethroning of centrism that evil direction was immutable due to the way funding steers political action in the US. So the dems had to lose the election to pure evil or face political dissolution as evil lite in the short-middle time frame. Yes, the cost is dire in terms of Trump being much worse with internal policy. The prognosis for the US is possibly fatal.. We are on life support as a country of laws and as an entity on the world stage with global reserve currency dominance.

Before the election, both parties seemed inevitably doomed-- it was simply of whether it was in the very short term or in the short-medium term. Now the Dems might conceivably disavow their mistakes and correct themselves, after a trip to the woodshed for what we all should agree is a beating of the neolibs that needs to occur if we are to move forward.

Either way we have a lot to answer for as a people who perpetuate this political reality, which affects the world quite a bit. The concept of collective responsibility exists, even if Americans seldom talk about it or understand it.

Do you think Musk wouldn't pay Democrat to get what he wanted? He literally manage to get his wealth while 2 Democrat presidents held office.

I believe he just change teams because it was expected after Biden left the race.

I do believe he knew before it is official that Biden would drop and Trump assassination attempt and moment was clear that he will get the same votes as before so he diced to get favor early.

Some timeline:

Trump assassination attempt was on July 13, 2024

Public Musk endorsement was on the same day.

Biden left the race on July 21, 2024

I do believe that while he might not be publicly a Nazi he will get what he need throughout Democrat president based on his history.

My dood, I am telling you they did not open with a flat out lie about the comment they are replying to. They are making a point you don't like, sure! But no where was there a lie about what people said, just inferences made.

Like cool, you dislike what was said, but spending more time defending your stance of not reading then just reading and downvoting is wild and silly.

And what lesson would that be?

I'll humor you, although I'm surprised you've not heard this yet:

What Dem leadership should have learned:

• Have to get back to operating from a platform, not vibes or cult of personality.
• No more genocide. Get back to leading from principle rather than realpolitik. Explicitely ditch the far right zionists-- we can make money elsewhere, and we are not a far right party.
• Be the party of the people. Lower and middle class votes are needed to win. Get back to expanding social programs.
• Stop insulting people. We don't "go high when they go low", we kick their ass wherever they are, but we don't insult voters, and we also dont self-censor for comity's sake.
• To move fwd and reunite the coalition that is the Dem party, we have to acknowledge that the party hasnt been doing what the people want, and was also engaging in a genocide. No more weasel words around that. Lets get it over with.
• Act like the party is a coalition, not a centrally controlled imperium. Stop kicking the left in the face.
• Dont look for votes form the right.
• Dont lionize bipartisanship as a goal unto itself.
• Create metrics for success and be accountable for them.
• Publish a long term plan for the party, and candidates who wont adhere to it shouldnt be in the party.
• Kick out the right wingers. When we get Bidens/Manchins/Liebermans not towing the line, remove them from their committees and dont fund their re-elections. No dems should be against the platform like Biden did for ~40 years being anti abortion. He should have been kicked to the curb decades ago.
• No more "seniority" in congressional leadership appointments. Go by merit and votes of the constituents.
• term limits for leadership appointments.
• A code of ethics. For starters, dems shouldnt ever be trading stocks the legislate on. It soils the image of the whole party when individuals are corrupt, and that needs to stop. Pelosi needs to go for her decades of insider trading. That never should have been permitted.
• Set a mandatory retirement age for Dems. 70 sounds reasonable. If you are a judge you leave after 70 as soon as a dem administration can appoint your successor. No more waiting for death/incapacity and hurting your party when you go out that way. Lets get these people thinking of the party over their own arrogance. It took everyone way too lont to admit Biden was not fit to run again. That was BS. Party members should have been able to question his competence earlier.
• No more telling states they cant vote in the primary like the dnc did with new hampshire.
• no more shenanigans during primaries like Hillary did with Bernie.. They should be fair votes. No more effing superdelegates.
• no more locking constituents out of the convention. The DNC doesnt get to censure voters requests. Those corrupt sons of bitches need to admit they work for us.