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Deepseek collects and process all the data you sent to their LLN even from API calls. It is a no-go for most of businesses applications. For example, OpenAI and Anyhropic do not collect or process anyhow data sent via API and there is an opy-ouy button in their settings that allows to avoid processing of the data sent via UI.
You can run 'em locally, tho, if their gh page is to be believed. And this way you can make sure nothing gets even sent to their servers, and not just believe nothing is processed.
I got it running with ollama locally, works as advertised
https://medium.com/@pedro.aquino.se/how-to-install-and-use-deepseek-r1-a-free-and-privacy-first-alternative-to-openai-save-c838d2e5e04a
DeepSeek is an open source project that anybody can run, and it's performant enough that even running the full model is cheap enough for any company to do.
Since it's open source is there a way for companies to adjust so it doesn't intentionally avoid saying anything bad about China?
Anybody can adjust the weights any way they want.
That doesn't mean it's straightforward, or even possible, to entirely remove the censorship that's baked into the model.
People saying truisms that confirm their biases about shit they clearly know nothing about? I thought I'd left reddit.
It doesn't mean it's easy, but it is certainly possible if somebody was dedicated enough. At the end of the day you could even use the open source code DeepSeek published and your own training data to train a whole new model with whatever biases you like.
"It's possible, you just have to train your own model."
Which is almost as much work as you would have to do if you were to start from scratch.
It's obviously not since the whole reason DeepSeek is interesting is the new mixture of experts algorithm that it introduces. If you don't understand the subject then maybe spend a bit of time learning about it instead of adding noise to the discussion?
I understand the subject well enough to know you can't back up your claims with evidence. You clearly have an agenda here...
I have backed up my claims with evidence and sources. Stay mad troll.
Oops, I didn't realize I was posting on ML. That's my bad, I should have expected this bias.
For the record, I don't see any evidence or sources in your responses to me.
Have nice day.
Oh no, people here have biases different from your own. The horror! Meanwhile, I provided sources in other responses in this thread. You could also just spend your time to google this stuff yourself instead of trolling here, it's not exactly hidden.
Bye!
I'm happy to question my own biases, but only when the other party is willing to act in good faith. You clearly aren't. I checked, and none of your other posts in this thread cite sources that disprove what I've said.
What you said is demonstrably nonsense and I very much did link sources to the model, and the paper explaining how it works, and why it's open source. Absolutely hilarious that you keep lying here while accusing me of acting in bad faith. You are an utter clown.
If it was actually programed that way then yes you could go in and adjust that, but the model itself is not censored that way and has no problem describing all sorts of Chinese tabboo subjects.
It should be repeated: no American corporation is going to let their employees put data into DeepSeek.
Accept this truth. The LLM you can download and run locally is not the same as what you’re getting on their site. If it is, it’s shit, because I’ve been testing r1 in ollama and it’s trash.
It should be repeated: anybody can run DeepSeek themselves on premise. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Keep on coping there though, it's pretty adorable.
Where do I find this opy ouy button? Sounds tasty