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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

The Dems unilaterally decided that losing the election was less harmful than continuing to commit genocide

So it's your opinion that the protest vote against Palestinian genocide did make the difference between victory and defeat for the Trump regime?

[-] Loss@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago

Yes, Dems choosing to be more right wing than the trump 2016 campaign did have an effect. It did cause them to lose core support from minority groups that realized they weren't going to be supported anymore by the dem party.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Yes,

Then you admit you refused to show solidarity with LGBT folk in the US, because the candidate for protecting LGBT folk in the US showed insufficient solidarity with Palestinians?

[-] Loss@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

...Jill stein did show support for Palestinians, what the fuck are you on about? So did de la Cruz. Hell even Dr West did.

Those were the only candidates showing support for trans people in the 2024 election, so no idea how you got confused.

Edit: ooh you're one of the lgb not t guys, aren't you?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

…Jill stein did show support for Palestinians, what the fuck are you on about? So did de la Cruz. Hell even Dr West did.

Okay? None of those candidates had any chance of defending LGBT folk in the US, and LGBT folk in the US overwhelmingly voted for Harris, above and beyond what support they gave the Dems in 2016 and 2020, because they saw the writing on the wall regarding Trump.

Edit: ooh you’re one of the lgb not t guys, aren’t you?

Get better material. Trans rights are human rights.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

None of those candidates had any chance of defending LGBT folk in the US

getting elected is probably one of the least effective ways to protect marginalized people. i think dr west and de la cruz are doing great work for queer people.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And neither of those idiots have a track record of ever having done shit to support their loaded promises.

You’re just believing shit because it sounds good. They’re both untested, unproven blowhards that don’t have the political clout, or legal knowledge to back up a god damned thing they “promised.”

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