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Zaheer Mahmood, 29, was sentenced to 30 years in prison for attempting to murder two people with a meat cleaver outside Charlie Hebdo's former Paris office in 2020.

Influenced by radical Pakistani preacher Khadim Hussain Rizvi, Mahmood attacked two Premieres Lignes employees, mistaking the office for Charlie Hebdo's, which had relocated after the 2015 al-Qaeda attack.

Five accomplices were jailed for supporting Mahmood. The victims, who suffered severe injuries, rejected Mahmood's apology.

Mahmood, an illegal immigrant to France since 2017, was also convicted of terrorist conspiracy.

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[-] Walk_blesseD 18 points 6 days ago

I think that the state having the authority to kill people is bad, actually.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago
[-] dmalteseknight@programming.dev 14 points 6 days ago

It is not the severity of the crimes but the risk of executing innocents. A person could be a convicted pedophile but new evidence might reveal that they were innocent.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

So you're okay with imprisoning potentially innocent people for life?

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

So you're okay with murdering innocent people?

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Well there have been life sentance that have been vacated when new evidence, generally DNA, has come to light proving they were not the culprit. That wouldn't be possible if they were dead, delayed justice is better than no justice.

Who knows what sort of technological advances we may get in the next 50 years that could free people imprisoned today? Why would we remove the possibility? It's cheaper to house an inmate for a lifetime than the process of execution so what's the practical reason to have I act state sanctioned murder?

Revenge? Idk. That doesn't sound like justice to me.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There have also been life sentences where innocent people die before they're exonerated.

Also, losing decades of your life for something you didn't do isn't any more acceptable because you have the potential of going free if you're proven innocent.

All you people are saying is you're cool with imprisoning potentially innocent people for life, which completely nullifies your argument of avoiding the death penalty because "they may be innocent."

[-] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

Enough with the BS now. Only someone who is alive can be exonerated.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

You need to improve your reading comprehension.

[-] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

You are pro capital punishment, yes?

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

There have also been life sentences where innocent people die before they're exonerated.

So.... we might as well kill anyways?

At this point, I just have to assume you're a troll.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

So… we might as well kill anyways?

No, so your argument about not punishing the innocent doesn't hold any water.

If you're against the death penalty because they might be innocent, then you should also be against any long-term prison sentence because they might be innocent.

At this point, I just have to assume you’re a troll.

Yeah, no. I'm just saying things you don't like. Blocked.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If you're against the death penalty because they might be innocent, then you should also be against any long-term prison sentence because they might be innocent.

Well that is a super crazy leap.

But okay. Block me. You're a deeply unserious person saying silly things so I'm gonna call this a win. 😂

[-] dmalteseknight@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

Ofcourse! A convicted pedophile is a convicted pedophile until proven innocent.

With a life sentence you can at least get some of your life back if proven innocent. With the death penalty not so much.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

So you're cool with imprisoning potentially innocent people for life, but giving them the death penalty is too much?

With a life sentence you can at least get some of your life back if proven innocent.

Yeah, but what about those who die in prison before they're proven innocent? What about those that spend decades in prison and have basically nothing to live for when they get out? What about those who lose realistically any of their time due to an innocent conviction?

All of those are acceptable to do to innocent people in your eyes?

Ofcourse! A convicted pedophile is a convicted pedophile until proven innocent.

Lol, funny how you're all of a sudden putting faith in the verdict when the death penalty isn't on the line.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago
[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Not sure who that is. I don't keep up with celebrities like you people do.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago
[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

The average person on these forums.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Nah... 🐕‍🦺😗

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