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People always call Linus Torvalds an asshole, but I've yet to see anything from him that didn't make sense. And the fact that he eventually took community feedback and decided to take time off to deal with his anger issues is commendable.
Linus TT can go and fuck itself though.
He’s definitely a fuck your feelings type. No nonsense and sometimes harsh but like you said it’s almost always justified. I’ll take that over fake ass, greedy LTT Linus “oops I got caught so now I’ll apologize or try to hide it and then apologize” any day of the week.
LTT could have just said fuck you're right my bad, every single time he gets caught fucking up.
Honey: yeah we really wanted to do but that NDA was nasty and have you seen their lawyers, sorry guys We have ousted sponsors before but it just didn't make business sense in this case. 99% would have went "yeah we get you"
Billit labs: We did not mean to fuck these guys over, erm twice. We have (repurchase the prototype off who we sent it to or compensated them for the price of machining a new part too sufficiently high tolerance) and if they provide us with a another piece and exact instructions we'll cover them in a future video gratis.
These things didn't need to turn into PR disasters.
I don't follow youtube or youtuber drama but you cannot really retroactively change the details I wrote below.
https://lemmy.world/comment/14665903
Only an asshole when talking about contributing to Linux from what I've seen
That may be, don't think I've heard him talk about anything else. One of my favorite clips ever is his message to nvidia. Some things are worth being angry about. And because of his angry public reaction, I became aware of nvidia's anti-FOSS efforts. So it's not all bad imo.
You spend all your adult life nurturing a baby like the Linux kernel, a lot of it unpaid, and you'll be a bit touchy about what goes into it too.
he gets paid, more than enough
Now he does. Originally he did not.
True.
Here's a dataset of most of his rants from the LKML along with the "hate" rating of each.
https://github.com/corollari/linusrants?tab=readme-ov-file#linusrants
Telling someone they need to get their act together or you'll ignore their shit is considered more hateful than asking for someone to be retroactively aborted?
Haha I was wondering the same. The hate score does not make sense
In my office it is
Linus is giving away home made guitar pedals to kernel contributors
https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/1/19/281
Nive guy
For an embarrassingly long time I thought they were the same person, and I wondered why anyone would look up to that tool, and call him a genius, when he couldn't even benchmark an HDMI cable correctly (literally the only video of his I watched, and yes, I know that it wouldn't have mattered even if he did do it properly).
Now that I know that its 2 separate assholes, I feel like LTT is even more of a tool who leans into the identity confusion on purpose for more internet clout.
He can be rude but that's what working with people leads to.
EDIT: I apologize to everyone who has so far read this comment. I misunderstood what Linus Torvalds meant in the interview I mentioned. I thought he was just calling the Russian kernel contributors "Internet trolls", be he was actually referring to Russian "troll farms" taking advantage of the controversy generated by how the Linux Foundation removed the Russian devs from kernel development without saying a word, to entice outrage and try to get the Foundation's decision reversed. (afaik they had to do it because the US government ordered them to, and the foundation is hosted in the US.) I'm leaving the post in its original form for posterity.
~~I think the way Torvalds treated the Russian kernel maintainers that got silently removed from development (a situation that, by itself, was completely mishandled) was awful to say the least. In a interview, he said they were all Internet trolls, and referenced conflicts between Finland and Russia to "explain" his disdain for Russians. Say what you want, but I usually call a person that judges others based on their country of birth alone, an asshole. Not just that, but such behaviour sounds extremely ungrateful when we are talking about people who contributed in extremely important ways to Torvalds' biggest project of his life. I used to have a positive view of Torvalds, but this kind of ruined it for me.~~
He didn't call the maintainers trolls.
This tracks with other Russian social media efforts.
So I interpreted this interview the wrong way. This changes everything!
Thank you for letting me know that I was making a misinformed comment. I'm editing it as we speak.
No, thank you for holding yourself accountable.
He did tho. I don't know where and why you've pulled these quotes from, when the original message is available publicaly, and where it's very clear whom exactly he accused.
In your own link he's referring to the people decrying the decision as trolls, not the maintainers.
He supports tivoization.
"He doesn't think he should fight it as a top priority" is not the same as "he supports it".
I looked at the wiki page, but I'm still not sure why/how he supports that. Got a link I can read up on?
Edit: read some more and googled more and I don't see him supporting it, rather it seems he takes issue with trying to dictate to hardware makers what they can do.