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Who keeps saying Elon's Nazi salute was a Nazi salute? Amongst others, a whole lot of fucking Nazi's.

ETA: Wired has more coverage on how real goddamn fucking nazis are just as happy as pigs in shit right now: Neo-Nazis Love the Nazi-Like Salutes Elon Musk Made at Trump's Inauguration.

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[-] Catoblepas 154 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It takes them until the ~~third~~ edit: miscount, fourth paragraph to even connect it to Nazi Germany. “Straight arm salute” and “Roman salute” and not a single use of the term “Nazi salute”, is this a fucking joke?

[-] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 95 points 1 day ago

is this a fucking joke?

It's fucking fear of retaliation if they call it what it is.

[-] Catoblepas 75 points 1 day ago

Gotta be honest, I’m feeling real “then perish” about it when this is literally the function of the fourth estate and these news companies are probably one of the best poised, financially and legally, to actually do something other than bend the knee.

[-] kuato@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago

Corporate media are owned by the oligarchs for whom fascism serves. Fascism is a false revolution that keeps the capitalist class in power.

Michael Parenti, Backshirts and Reds:

Divested of its ideological and organizational paraphernalia, fascism is nothing more than a final solution to the class struggle, the totalistic submergence and exploitation of democratic forces for the benefit and profit of higher financial circles.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 24 points 23 hours ago

Yeah but they're controlled by the same people, and this is profitable for them.

[-] Catoblepas 23 points 23 hours ago

This is why orgs like ProPublica, Assigned Media, etc are such a gift.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 20 points 23 hours ago

They are not a gift, journalism costs money. Donate.

[-] Catoblepas 12 points 23 hours ago

They’re for sure more worthy of the cash than the no stones Rolling Stone.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

How could American news organizations do anything but bend the knee? They're all owned by the oligarchy.

[-] Catoblepas 14 points 21 hours ago

Nonprofit news groups and reputable independent journalists are the answer to that, and they’re already out there.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 6 points 20 hours ago

When the public can’t afford to pay for journalists’ salaries, the journalists no longer work for the public.

It’s the same with politicians.

It’s hard to blame them, honestly. Do you go independent and starve, and ultimately fail to get your message through to anyone? Or do you play the game, stay alive, and hope you get a chance to pivot someday?

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

They'll get censored from all of the mainstream social media apps.

[-] Catoblepas 10 points 22 hours ago

They’re news companies, they are literally the media. They can get the message out if they want to. You don’t actually have to make their excuses for them for free, they pay people to do that.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago

Nazi Salute = Roman Salute It's like saying you were using a Hindu (or whatever, I'm not a religious scholar) swastika.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Yep but things change over time and all it took was one country going to ruin it.

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 10 points 21 hours ago

It appears to be deliberately playing with salutes that shouldn't be used.

I forget the exact origins of the swastika, but I believe it was Hindu ~~& it meant "blessing".~~ It was a sacred symbol, then adopted by the Nazis.

The Internet is a thing, so let's review & (re)learn together. The swastika meant either "conducive to well-being" or "good luck & prosperity".

It wasn't just for Buddhism & Hindu; the swastika weaseled its way into many European religious sects & found in early Byzantine & Christian artwork.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

With swastikas it’s the tilt that makes it the evil one.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The Jains I believe used the swastika but I think it was reversed

It may have been a symbol for ahimsa which is nonviolence I can’t remember and too tired to look it up.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

God forbid they try to practice skeptical and balanced journalism

[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 31 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

“Balanced”? It was a Nazi salute, and they won’t say it.

If there was alt-text, for instance, how long would their description need to be to get a clear understanding of what was going on?

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 60 points 23 hours ago

What is there to be skeptical of? It was witnessed by millions of people.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

The intention?

The article is not hiding what he did, it's in the title. Just because it takes them a few paragraphs to speculate instead of immediately shoving their opinion down your throat doesn't make it a "fucking joke"

[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 23 hours ago

Holy shit, coming from a .ml, that’s fucking PRICELESS.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

.ml is a joke of an instance

[-] Catoblepas 34 points 23 hours ago

Don’t believe your lying eyes, he might have a bee in his sleeve!!

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