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[-] Fitik@fedia.io 29 points 2 days ago

"Used AAVE as slang" is gonna get ya cancelled now? Lol, this is absurd, if those are the reasons, using them you can cancel 80% of young folk, y'all are crazy

This is kinda sad tho, that while racism and real bigots exists, y'all waste your time cancelling people for using "y'all"

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

Is AAVE = "African American Vernacular English"? That's the only thing I can think that it would be.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

Of note here, AAVE is an outdated term. AAE - African American English (still a little outdated) or AAL - African American Language (the newest, most accurate term) are more accurate. Linguists dropped the "Vernacular" because it is not a slang language, and are starting to change "English" to "Language" because it is most likely derived from creole, not English

[-] exasperation@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Linguists dropped the "Vernacular" because it is not a slang language

Since when does "vernacular" apply only to slang? It's just everyday language, which can include slang but includes plenty of non-slang.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

Vernacular is specifically used for informal language, and in this particular case, linguists did not want to imply slang. I am not a linguist, but the sources I found from people who study AAE cited that as the reason for the name change

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thank you so much for the more accurate names. Though a lot of black folks I know still do call it AAVE or B(V)E (Black (Vernacular) English), I'm not sure why.

You're correct that it's not a slang language. I wasn't aware that vernacular implied that, I appreciate the education!

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

It was AAVE for a long time, and momentum is a hell of a thing. Ultimately whatever the culture wants to call it, it is really up to them.

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

Good point! Thanks, really appreciate your help here.

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

If you actually read the thread it's said multiple times "y'all" wasn't and isn't the problem.

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

Okay, but all other examples were just slang too, so my point still stands

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

It is not just slang, though. It is a whole language that black folks have been constantly asking white people to stop using as slang. This is just one public instance of it happening

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