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Idiocracy was too optimistic. it supposes that when people are having problems they will realize, realize they can't fix it, and try to find someone who knows more than them to fix them
Not just that but the story also suggests that the US can fail so terribly while still functioning to be able to still host monster truck rallies and have a working water system that can pump millions of gallons of mountain dew
Your point, like many similar, misses the fact that idiocracy is MANY cycles in before they attempt to right the ship. There is an entire population of adults in there that seemed to have been born into the already broken world and developed wholly inside of it (and probably several generations). Not a lot of "Back in my day" in that world, because back in "that day" everyone was still a fucking moron in a broken world.
500 years covered in the link below alone. Settle in, we're just getting started. Unfortunately we'll never live to see the movie, "Ass" or to see it win those 8 Oscars.
http://www.themovietimeline.com/film6759
The premise was that it was a gradual decline to that point though. There would have been millions of opportunities to right the ship up until that point. It's optimistic that at some point, at SOME point, people will decide to do what the smartest people think. But the movie is pretty pessimistic that there was entire generations that didn't ever do that even once.
It's also not how genetics works. Smart people don't only have smart children and dumb people don't only have dumb children.
The eugenics component of the movie is gross, no wonder I fail to remember it.
Don't do drugs, it's bad for you. You remembered the wrong movie.
There is though, there's a whole scene about poor=dumb and horny vs rich=smart and chaste. It's very easy to forget since it doesn't solidly tie in as much as the producers may have hoped
There's an implied statement in that scene: "if their parents and grandparents were different people, this world would not be in ruins." Mercifully a lot of viewers interpreted the film as a satirical view of the progression of society in general or humanity overall. But the scene as it is laid out says the wealthy smart people died out and left only the dumb poors to inherit the earth.
No, the scene is about how the wealthy people wait for the best financial opportunity to afford their kid the best while the dumb people just have kids. The wealthy folks wait too long and have no kids.
The movie is about how "dumb" people outbred "smart" people and it ruined the planet/humanity. Replace those traits with the races of your choice or any other genetic trait and tell me if you're still OK with that narrative.
Race isn’t the result of choices but being less educated certainly is to some degree a function of choice. Your suggestion of replacing a trait that involves choices with one that is not chosen at any level is a false equivalence.
How exactly is it treated as a choice in the movie?
You know how you can choose to pay attention in class and do the work and ask for help when needed? If you don’t do any if that you’ll end up dumb and that is a result if your choices
Setting aside the ableism of your reply, it still in no way relates to how intelligence is treated in the movie that is being discussed.
Dumb isn’t ableist really. It used to refer to mute people but it hasn’t been used for that purpose in decades. Nice try at another bullshit claim. You like those don’t you?
You misunderstood the first scene completely to the point where I wonder if your sensitivity to this bit is because of your own perspective on where you sit intellectually or financially. You can decide on your own how much of that is the result of your educational choices.
Lol. "You're dumb and poor". What an informative reply. Thanks for clearing that up.
You really have trouble understanding things if that's your take away from my comment. I never concluded that you are poor or stupid but Im leaning towards you not being a strong reader based on the skills you demonstrated today.
Literally what you said. Feel free to clarify if that's not what you meant.
The "smart" people keep waiting and waiting. It's not being forced on them...
Choice to have a baby ≠ choice to "be dumb"
Choice to not have baby = choice to let dumb people out-procreate smart people = more dumb people
And, returning to the original question - How exactly is that treating individual intelligence as a choice and not a genetic trait?
The fact that nine people m people think that intelligence is actually a highly inheritable trait is worrying.