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[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

That kind of talk is why Trump won.

[-] cybermass@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 years ago

As a Canadian, I honestly believe your election was rigged and has been since 2000.

Corporations own your country, it's very obvious. The only way you can influence your government at this point is collective action which will never happen cause you have iPhones to use to get your anger out.

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I’m not disputing your theory, in fact I think it’s likely but how do you think they’re actually doing it?

[-] cybermass@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Voting machines, many of which are owned by private corporations

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago

Lack of resistance is why Trump won. Democrats are part of that, but the blame hardly lies on them alone.

Votes do matter, they're just not enough on their own.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It's hard to claim lack of resistance when the entire party was shifting to the hard right trying to attract that hard right vote. They cozied up to war criminals, cops zionists and the right wing while blowing right-wing dog whistles there was no resistance

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

They were still better on some policies. There would have been space to pressure them in the next four years, build support for a progressive party in local and state elections where they thought they were safe and so on. I can't imagine any timeline where a Trump victory won't be objectively worse on many issues. Like I said, the Dems bending over is part of that lack of resistance, but the unwillingness of many voters to vote against Trump, if nothing else, is also a factor.

How are you consciously standing by idly while watching an out-and-open authoritarian take the lead? How are you seeing Musk of all people crawl up his butt and figure "yeah, I'd rather let him take the reigns"?

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not my problem, this is a mess created by liberals for not demanding better of their elected officials or ever holding them accountable for their actions, which is why politics keep getting worse every cycle. As a party they knew they can do whatever they want with no repercussion because voters are trapped in a cycle where they feel there are only 2 options and will come crawling back to them at election time.

[-] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In swing states, yes. But for the majority of americans not in a swing state, their gripes are at least somewhat valid thanks to gerrymandering.

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Gerrymandering has been a huge problem for a while, what makes you think this time it played a pivotal role in Trump's victory? If that was the case, he would have won the electoral vote but not the popular vote, but he won the popular vote, first Rep pres to do so in 20 years apparently. It helped secure past Rep presidencies, but doesn't to have done so this time around.

[-] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Jerrymandering doesn't play any role in who gets elected president, just the house of reps.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Gerrymandering only impacts the House of Representatives and no impact on the president or any other government positions.

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The number of electors to the electoral college are chosen by the number of congressional districts and 1 for each state senator in a state regardless of how those maps are drawn.

Texas has 38 congressional districts and 2 senators from the state, so they have 40 electors to the electoral college. That number does not change regardless how the maps are drawn. Same for every other state in the country.

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