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submitted 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Leaving aside the absurd and juvenile "Nazi" slur ("fascist" is less of a stretch), I disagree with your analysis. I think it's exactly the opposite. I think it's because mainstream politicians have refused to address the reasonable aspects of people's concerns (about immigration, in particular), and because progressive activists have gone off the leash in their wild accusations of racism at the slightest contradiction of their opinions, that we've ended up in this situation of the far right getting into power all over the place.

Once again: I do not vote for these parties. Anyway, we are now completely offtopic so let's leave it there.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 25 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

So yes they're fascist, but the progressives complained too much about racism, and therefore it's fine to support the fascists?

IDK what to tell you but your political ideology is privileged garbage. You're more scared of being called racist than of fascism. The kind of "yes ethnic cleansing but please no mean language" attitude. Please get a political education and your priorities straight.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

With your insults and condescension, you're just proving my point.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yeah I never doubted you'd have a reason to dismiss being called out like that. Getting your feelings hurt invalidates everything else. I feel like I'm talking to myself from 10 years ago.

You don't have to take it from me. If you're a student of history, maybe start with Umberto Eco. He knew a thing or two about fascism, I've heard.

The biggest mistake we can make is to assume it can't happen again.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Your condescension is reaching new levels! It's not working, try something else.

this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
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