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Apparently there's an issue with some instances banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments. Is lemmy.world a safe place to criticize governments?

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[-] lhx@lemmy.world 470 points 1 year ago

Well let’s find out: Free Ukraine! Fuck Russia. Fuck China!

[-] totallynotsocsa@beehaw.org 99 points 1 year ago

Mao Zedong is objectively one of the worst people in all of human history, and his influence held China back for decades, and continues to harm it to this day.

[-] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know, I agree that he shouldn't have collaborated with America's foreign policy following the sino-soviet split, but I don't think that even puts him as a major candidate in the running.

Edit: He also really should have given the sparrow thing a test run, and there are other criticisms to make, but these are still lesser than the original one. There was bad theory and bad practice in the Cultural Revolution, but overwhelmingly its biggest problem was endangering the revolution that Mao led to establish the PRC in the first place, something for which he deserves credit on account of poverty reduction, drastic increase in life expectancy, land-redistribution, etc. Oh yeah, and the whole "opposing Japanese and British colonialism" thing, since the KMT rolled over for that, but hopefully that goes without saying.

[-] Dapado@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

It seems like you've left out the part where multiple tens of millions of people died as a result of his policies.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Exterminating the sparrows, that was a pretty big oops.

[-] nephs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately beehaw users won't see your reply, friend. :(

[-] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Thank you for letting me know. I always forget about that because I can see their replies. In any case, I'm more worried about what the people on lemmy.world think, since Beehaw has basically become a purpose-built engine of sectarianism, so the content of those replies would be a foregone conclusion.

I'll try to remember to use my lemmy.ml account in the future for this.

[-] nephs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Only if you really want them to read it. I appreciate it's important to talk to the general audience. :)

Sectarianism toward what ideology, out of curiosity? I couldn't wade through their endless text blobs enough to tell

[-] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Ha, fair question! They have plenty of people they dislike, but what I was trying to refer to was their opposition to what they call "tankies" and I call "People who believe that the US lies about its enemies, particularly its big geopolitical rivals." Specifically, while they are conversationally annoying about it, what really bugs me is their campaign to defederate and get others to defederate from spaces they deem "tankie-friendly". I think that really undermines the platform as a whole to pillarize things that way (i.e. closing things off into silos).

"Sectarianism" arguably isn't the right word for that (it has intra-ideology connotations), but I didn't think it was worth splitting hairs over.

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