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The L.A. Fires Show the Need for Climate Realism
(www.cfr.org)
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Except these fires weren’t due to climate change…
It was as bad as it was because of climate change, just like with all fires now. The setting itself has simply changed too much for it not to be the case.
If this is good faith, you gotta update your understanding, man.
Unfortunately, that’s not true. People are lacking any understanding of fires and also the historicity of large-scale, calamitous fires in the past, pre-industrial revolution and before any significant human impact to climate. These past fires exhibited the same characteristics as seen with the LA firestorm. Climate change did not exacerbate the fires seen here. To suggest so not only ignores a rational understanding of how large-scale fires can literally create their own weather in addition to incorrectly placing the blame on an unforeseen force rather than the cause of direct human activity (physically starting a fire) and gross governmental negligence. Climate change caused the defunding, which lead to no water for hydrants? People out here no longer even using their brains for critical thinking anymore (ノ°益°)ノ
100 mph winds and such dry brush during the rainy season is not normal.
This fire happening should come as no surprise, but the speed, scale, and timing of this was from a set of freak weather conditions.
Rainfall is becoming more sporadic and heavier when it comes, weather systems are going far from areas they normally reach - last year had dozens of combinations of record setting freak conditions, and the unprecedented fires, floods, and winds to go with it.
It's becoming constant - somewhere in the world is experiencing conditions they never expected to face at any given time... The crazy winds are what made this fire what it is instead of what they were due for
Wow. You are mind-blowingly ignorant.
Arrogant people are typically also ignorant.
Still can’t discredit me with facts, simply name-calling. Classic.
There was too little rain this year which made the fires much worse.
Blaming it on climate change seems like a cop-out for the egregious failure and oversight by the local/state government.
Blaming it on local/state government seems like a cop-out for the egregious failure and oversight by world governments and the fossil fuel industry.
None of that contributed to these fires. They were started by people, regardless of climate change. It is disingenuous to appropriate climate change as the culprit to this and dismiss any responsibility from the leaders of California.
No it isn't. Climate change has changed the predicability and severity of weather. It's established fact. They had a ton of rain months ago, which cause a ton of plants to grow, then, a drought which dried that extra vegetation up. Along with that, they're receiving 100mph winds.
To say that is normal there is being disingenuous.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/01/the-role-of-climate-change-in-the-catastrophic-2025-los-angeles-fires/
You have no idea wtf you’re talking about. Look up pyroconvective effects of large fires. Climate change has nothing to do with the extreme winds.
I don't need to, I can rely on people that have dedicated their entire lives to studying it, and they agree with each other.
Also, read the article.
A circle jerk of idiocy.
I'm over it, plausible deniability was done for this a decade ago. Take care
It's ok to be wrong. Being wrong is actually really handy - you get to learn something. I understand it's hard to be vulnerable and admit you are wrong but it does show a lot of character.
I'd urge you to find a way to do that. You will be the better for it.
Dispute anything I’ve said. Tell me how it’s wrong.
The problem with drought and high winds is that a spark grows into this. There was some 2023 Canada wildfire arson to prove "climate change a hoax", but it's the rapid spread that is global warming related, not that sparks are new.
Sure snowflake, 90mph wind gusts after months of drought conditions is the government's fault. It's not like the entire western US and Canada have seen increasing red flag conditions for years which are only getting worse.
See my other comments. You evidently lack any knowledge about fires. Understand how firestorms work before commenting like an ignoramous. Otherwise, detail for me how climate change caused the “90mph winds”, which aren’t anything unique here.
100mph winds and drought are not that easy to fight/control. Budget decisions look bad in retrospect, but the budget required to handle this would not have been approved/popular.