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[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I suppose if we're being honest with ourselves, one benefit was getting to leave Africa and come to America. There seems to be a lot of people out here dying to illegally cross our borders.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago

Holy shit this is stupid. These people were forcibly taken from their homes, stacked like wood in the holds of ships where many of them died, then treated worse than animals when they got here. So no, that wasn't a benefit.

Sounds like you're from Florida though

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No I'm just being provocative for the sake of conversation.

Overall I think their generational offspring's lives are likely "improved" compared to maybe the similar generations who remained in their homeland these days.

However, those that were slaves definitely suffered a very unjust and horrific existence that is inexcusable.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

No I’m just being provocative for the sake of conversation.

The activity you just described is called "trolling."

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I agree with you.

[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

No I'm just being provocative for the sake of conversation.

Also known as "being an asshole"

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Man, you must be a lot of fun to be around...

[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seeing your replies to this and other comments, it's clear you are loving all this attention. Classic troll behavior. Fuck directly off.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Trolls are the stupid person's idea of an intellectual

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

There has to be some validity to a point for it to be provocative. You've utterly failed there.

[-] reddwarf@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Funny difference here is though that slaves were kidnapped and sold, had no choice in the matter.

This benefit is akin to force someone into hard labour and then start selling getting calluses as a ‘benefit’. Your welcome. Absurd of course.

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

For sure absurd. I'm just being provoking for the sake of conversation.

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Being a troll doesn't provoke "conversation." It's a dead end with people just calling you an asshole.

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, when you converse with highly reactionary and closed minded people, yeah. But having these types of conversations and exploring uncomfortable topics is actually very healthy for society. Censorship and pearl clutching tends to be regressive.

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

No one is censoring you. Your opinion is there for all to read. The consensus of the conversation seems to be that it was a bad one.

[-] killernova@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
[-] gamer@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

AKA being an internet edge lord

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Whatever label helps your mind avoid total shutdown is fine with me.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

You're really doubling down on your stupidity, aren't you?

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You're allowed to think whatever you want.

[-] Larsa 1 points 1 year ago

You're a cool dude :)

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

How is that a benefit? They were slaves taken from their homes not immigrants.

And even if they were immigrants, how is becoming a slave a good thing in any way?

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They were taken hostage by African Tribes, sold to the Dutch, put on ships, shipped to North and South America, and forced into slavery. I don't think you can compare that to migrants fleeing to Canada, who are trapped south of the United States border.

[-] killernova@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah it must have been really great to get kidnapped from your home and family and forcibly sold into slavery, shipped from one undeveloped country to another undeveloped country. Stop with this nonsense - there is nothing good about slavery. Period. Done. End of story. Absolutely sickening. Pure evil.

[-] KuroJ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How about this, what if the millions of black people that were brought over to the states, instead remained in Africa and built it to be a prominent and thriving nation.

If it wasn’t for black slaves building the U.S. one could argue that it wouldn’t be where it is today.

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah what luck! America in 1619, with its gleaming cities and endless opportunities - every African aspired to be a member of those huddled masses yearning to breathe enslaved!

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's not like ruining a country, you know, ruins a country. Who would think that.

[-] hi_im_FitcH@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm sure the thousands of people who died in the hulls of slave ships, chained in place in their own piss and shit and sick, hungry and afraid, really appreciated the chance to come to America where the streets are paved with gold. You fucking moron.

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is so vile I just gasped involuntarily. I hope someday you feel an ounce of shame, sheesh.

[-] comedy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The America they were forced to come to was vastly different from the one we live in today. How would that be better than where they already lived? How would someone benefit from being ripped from their family and support system and dropped in an undeveloped country to do forced labor?

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