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[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I suppose if we're being honest with ourselves, one benefit was getting to leave Africa and come to America. There seems to be a lot of people out here dying to illegally cross our borders.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago

Holy shit this is stupid. These people were forcibly taken from their homes, stacked like wood in the holds of ships where many of them died, then treated worse than animals when they got here. So no, that wasn't a benefit.

Sounds like you're from Florida though

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No I'm just being provocative for the sake of conversation.

Overall I think their generational offspring's lives are likely "improved" compared to maybe the similar generations who remained in their homeland these days.

However, those that were slaves definitely suffered a very unjust and horrific existence that is inexcusable.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

No I’m just being provocative for the sake of conversation.

The activity you just described is called "trolling."

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure I agree with you.

[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

No I'm just being provocative for the sake of conversation.

Also known as "being an asshole"

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Man, you must be a lot of fun to be around...

[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Seeing your replies to this and other comments, it's clear you are loving all this attention. Classic troll behavior. Fuck directly off.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Trolls are the stupid person's idea of an intellectual

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

There has to be some validity to a point for it to be provocative. You've utterly failed there.

[-] reddwarf@feddit.nl 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Funny difference here is though that slaves were kidnapped and sold, had no choice in the matter.

This benefit is akin to force someone into hard labour and then start selling getting calluses as a ‘benefit’. Your welcome. Absurd of course.

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

For sure absurd. I'm just being provoking for the sake of conversation.

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Being a troll doesn't provoke "conversation." It's a dead end with people just calling you an asshole.

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

I mean, when you converse with highly reactionary and closed minded people, yeah. But having these types of conversations and exploring uncomfortable topics is actually very healthy for society. Censorship and pearl clutching tends to be regressive.

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

No one is censoring you. Your opinion is there for all to read. The consensus of the conversation seems to be that it was a bad one.

[-] killernova@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago
[-] gamer@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

AKA being an internet edge lord

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Whatever label helps your mind avoid total shutdown is fine with me.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

You're really doubling down on your stupidity, aren't you?

[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

You're allowed to think whatever you want.

[-] Larsa 1 points 2 years ago

You're a cool dude :)

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

They were taken hostage by African Tribes, sold to the Dutch, put on ships, shipped to North and South America, and forced into slavery. I don't think you can compare that to migrants fleeing to Canada, who are trapped south of the United States border.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago

How is that a benefit? They were slaves taken from their homes not immigrants.

And even if they were immigrants, how is becoming a slave a good thing in any way?

[-] killernova@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah it must have been really great to get kidnapped from your home and family and forcibly sold into slavery, shipped from one undeveloped country to another undeveloped country. Stop with this nonsense - there is nothing good about slavery. Period. Done. End of story. Absolutely sickening. Pure evil.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's not like ruining a country, you know, ruins a country. Who would think that.

[-] KuroJ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

How about this, what if the millions of black people that were brought over to the states, instead remained in Africa and built it to be a prominent and thriving nation.

If it wasn’t for black slaves building the U.S. one could argue that it wouldn’t be where it is today.

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah what luck! America in 1619, with its gleaming cities and endless opportunities - every African aspired to be a member of those huddled masses yearning to breathe enslaved!

[-] hi_im_FitcH@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah I'm sure the thousands of people who died in the hulls of slave ships, chained in place in their own piss and shit and sick, hungry and afraid, really appreciated the chance to come to America where the streets are paved with gold. You fucking moron.

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is so vile I just gasped involuntarily. I hope someday you feel an ounce of shame, sheesh.

[-] comedy@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

The America they were forced to come to was vastly different from the one we live in today. How would that be better than where they already lived? How would someone benefit from being ripped from their family and support system and dropped in an undeveloped country to do forced labor?

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