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[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 87 points 3 months ago

Littering is one of those things I struggle the most to understand.

I can somewhat grasp it in extreme cases, like when you’re dealing with something really dirty and there’s nowhere to put it. But I’m talking about casual littering - things like throwing candy wrappers on the ground when you could just as easily put them in your pocket.

I don’t think anyone sees themselves as a bad person. Even when we engage in bad behavior, we usually have some story we tell ourselves to justify it. But I can’t put myself in the mindset of someone who casually throws trash on the ground for someone else to clean up. It’s kind of like walking around and cussing at random people - it just doesn’t make any sense. You have to know that you're the problem.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 25 points 3 months ago

Cigarettes are one that particularly bother me, because they're so gross even compared to most other litter, but throwing them wherever is so normalised among smokers.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I still refuse to understand why littering is so common in my country. It seriously makes the cities look horrible.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Still remember the just piles and piles of garbage at the beaches and shrines around Mumbai.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I thought it couldn't get any worse.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I meant that I thought the garbage situation in my country was bad enough, I didn't expect something worse.

[-] GiveOver@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago

I've argued with litterers before and it goes along the lines of "it's already messy, everyone's doing it". Same sort of excuses you get from cheaters and such. I don't mean to go all edgy Joker but there's probably things you and I do that are a problem but we don't see it because everyone else does it too. Eating meat and emitting tons of co2 for example.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“Then don’t add to the mess” is my usual response,

I’ve had smoking friends who refuse to stand further from a doorway and blowing it in peoples faces with the “air is already polluted with cars” argument

Me:”then don’t add more!”

It’s a weak argument. One with the easiest hole to poke. Also great answer if you’re trying to filter out the idiots from your friends group.

[-] Hazor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Most people are courteous enough not to idle their car with the exhaust pipe right in a doorway. Their analogy is some serious mental gymnastics.

[-] sarahduck 3 points 3 months ago

I feel this a lot. Many criminals who have done wretched things at least have a comprehensible motivation, but littering? Cigarette butts in a nature reserve? It's nihilism, solipsism. That honestly scares me more. I can grasp that some people's care is misguided or distorted, but a lack of care at all? How do you even contend with that?

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't think that dropping rubbish is necessarily that bad. The problem comes when it persists in the environment for hundreds of years because it's not biodegradable.

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How do you separate the two? The fact that it persists in nature for hundreds of years is what makes it bad. I don't mind someone throwing banana peels into a forest.

[-] Bougie_Birdie 2 points 3 months ago

Banana peels take up to two years to decompose, unless they're in the right environment such as a compost heap where the process speeds to 6-9 months

That's still lightyears ahead of cigarette butts and plastic bottles, but a lot of people don't realize how long their trash lasts for

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Yea, that's what I mean. I call rubbish anything that gets thrown away though, so for me a banana skin is still rubbish but it is not bad in the same way as a plastic bottle. I probably wasn't clear enough in my downvoted first comment. But I am sick, so forgive me.

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I've put wrappers in my pocket on numerous occasions and lost them over the course of the next hour (usually depends on which clothes/pockets) so that might be part of what causes there to be so much litter but I have never intentionally thrown anything into nature besides a banana peel when I was a child. Throwing the banana peel into nature felt wrong but probably still is better than having walked a couple of hours with it to reach a mixed bin where it would rot and then maybe be burned.

[-] raldone01@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

When walking to a train station, I find fast food meal bags and empty plastic bottles in the sidewalk every day. If it's not too gross I take it with me the 30 meters to next public bin.

I really don't get it. Wherever you're going, there will most likely be a trash bin. It's not gonna impact your fuel costs. What are they thinking?

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