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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

And apparently, also when you think that 'They' is a perfectly serviceable gender-neutral singular pronoun, but are willing to use other pronouns if asked to.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's not it. All pronouns are made up. There are people out there right now using Xe/Xim and they're accepted. If you change languages the words change there too. Identity is consistently a big deal in the trans space, as seen by dead naming and conservative jokes about pronouns.

So we don't get to make that decision anymore and honestly it's the easiest thing in the world. They aren't controlling me by telling me to use their pronouns, for example I can still tell them they're wrong on an issue, I can still walk away, I can still take an ad out telling the world that person has a bad take, I can still ignore them or let them live rent free in my head. Saying pronouns control other people is ridiculous. The only thing they control is the identity of the person using them.

[-] Nima@leminal.space 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

read what I said again. its not the pronouns. its using them as a way to weaponize what is and isn't acceptable.

"This person dared to ask a question about how I identify myself, they're a terf for even asking!"

"This person said Fae creatures aren't real! i am angry at them, BAN!"

if you accept these two above examples as good and logical, then we will never agree. and frankly, defending those who behave in such a manner makes a larger divide between those that are trans or othergender and those that aren't.

people are allowed to ask questions and try and clarify what they don't understand. and having to remember specific pronouns for every individual on an internet forum is a completely unacceptable thing to ask.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's not even remotely what happened. They refused to use the pronouns after being told what they were. Which is something a Terf would do, since you brought the term up.

[-] Nima@leminal.space 14 points 10 months ago

its not reasonable to assume everyone will just do what you want because you want it. those kinds of pronouns are not ones based in reality.

that doesnt make them terfs. it just means they disagree with you. disagreeing with someone is not a capital offense.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Walks like a terf, talks like a terf... Is threatened by other people's self description like a terf. Oh no, watch out the word is going to bite you!

[-] Nima@leminal.space 7 points 10 months ago

in one ear and out the other, I see. best of luck.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"This person said Fae creatures aren't real! i am angry at them, BAN!"

When said in regards to not wanting to use a person’s preferred pronouns, yes that is a bad-faith argument. And, while I don’t agree with everything Ada does (or has done here), she is dedicated to making a safe space for her users with one of the rules being that you are to respect pronouns no matter what.

Also, I’m feeling more and more like Drag is dronerights, who was definitely a troll, but that will not make me use the wrong pronouns for Drag, and not necessarily for Drag’s sake but for the sake of anyone who feels better using neopronouns. In a discussion about this post on Hexbear, a user talked about how worried hy was asking for them to be included on the list. Even if Drag is a troll, there are people out there who are not and want these things.

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