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submitted 3 months ago by Showroom7561@lemmy.ca to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

Just to compare, this is the utopian dream for Toronto:

There are approx. 18 cars and trucks in that image.

They are taking up SIGNIFICANTLY more space, and are causing traffic.

Still, we keep saying, "give us more of this, please!".

Insanity or stupidity?

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[-] TheAlbatross 67 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Look we all want to be a pothead cyclist sex worker in the paradise of Amsterdam, but they can't fit us all.

They have entire fried fish fillets being sold on the street for like 2€ it's stupid bro it's fucking stupid how good they got it.

I blame the civil engineers.

Edit: I visited Amsterdam during a work trip. They have a tram system that stops at every other street and goes up every other spoke of their bike wheel city. It's cheap and it runs almost all night. I was sharing a jazz cigarette (Marijuana joint) with a local after drinking many fine Belgian beers and remarking about this in a broken German the local was ever so polite to entertain and they laughed at me, telling me the tram was slow, hardly stopped anywhere and cost too much, next time I should just rent a bike.

They don't even know how good they fucking got it.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 months ago

They don’t even know how good they fucking got it.

That's because this way of city planning is normal there. You wouldn't think that making streets and sidewalks safe for human beings would be such a big deal, but to us it's unheard of!

When we put a pedestrian crossing with gasp, a signal, motorists around here lose their minds! Not really, they just ignore them. /s

[-] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s normal because people in the 70s put in a lot of effort and protesting to make it normal. I thank them every day for that.

[-] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago

This is why you vote/advocate for bike friendly infrastructure to exist where you currently live.

[-] TheAlbatross 14 points 3 months ago

Buddy this is suburbia that shit ain't even on the ticket in the primary

[-] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

Hence why I also said advocate.

If there are no relevant ballot issues, you will need to find like minded people to create petitions. Start small: Painted bike lanes, reduce speeds in neighborhoods, signage, etc

The other option is be angry and bitter on the Internet. 🤷‍♀️

[-] TheAlbatross 3 points 3 months ago

I ain't bitter or angry, like I said, this is suburbia, we just talk like that.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Best thing I ever did in my life was to get out of the burbs.

[-] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 months ago

I’ll just drop this here

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They have entire fried fish fillets being sold on the street for like 2€ it’s stupid bro it’s fucking stupid how good they got it.

I prefer the kibbeling (little chunks of battered cod). The smoked-eel sandwiches (broodje paling) are also great.

I go to smaller Dutch cities when I want a break from the neglected and incompetently-managed infrastructure of England. There are too many Vice-reading Joe Rogan fans in Amsterdam.

As for bike rental, last I checked, locals could rent an OV-fiets using an OV chipkaart (and presumbably the OV-pas coming in this year), but visitors can't do that. I've heard that there are workarounds, but I'm not convinced that they can be relied on to work.

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