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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

How do you plan on ending Capitalism without revolution?

[-] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Purchase goods from employee owned entities. Support financial transitions away from shareholder owned entities to employee owned entities.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Where has this shown progress towards undermining the Capitalist system, and then not been curtailed by said Capitalist system? It sounds nice on paper but I doubt it's possible.

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[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

no clue, but i am a pacifist. I'd only go to war if my country was being invaded.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

In that manner, are you actually a Leftist? Morally you support the ideas of Leftism, but oppose the only actual methods of bringing them about. It's similar to supporting the idea of everyone becoming a millionaire overnight, if such a solution does not exist it ceases to be something to support and becomes a nice dream.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

i guess so. i don't really have a political affiliation anyways

[-] aehnh@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

A "pacifist" who goes to war for their country is affiliated with a political ideology called nationalism

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

would you not defend your country if you were invaded? i'd assume most normal people would

[-] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

The country I was born in was born itself from genocide. The first people to arrive had worked to erase a whole people, culture and knowledge because there was land and resources to be stolen.

Women were raped, children were stolen, men were killed. Even to this day, you can't go a year without multiple stories of disgusting abuse from the federal police against indigenous people.

The same country who stuck as many of the surviving genocided people into reservations. The same country that federally determined that those same people do not deserve clean drinking water in the reservations they were forced into. My tax dollars are funding a genocide today.

And what does Canada do? Point to China, accuse them of genocide against the Uyghur people. Hypocrisy. Absolute hypocrisy.

I refuse to fight for this country. I don't feel free. I don't see people feeling free. I think I must fight for the people whose land has been stolen over some imaginary borders that denies me the freedom to connect with people.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I get it, and i agree. But I'm not going to let the US or Russia roll tanks into Canada and make their way to those reserves, as they are the first Canadians and deserve everything for a better life. I will add though that some band chiefs do not make matters better when money given to them doesn't make it to those who need it. They are as much to blame in modern times as much as the federal government.

While on the topic, one thing that struck me as odd, was that people are shocked pikachu face about residential schools. I learned about this shit in the 90's. How is it that nobody knew about this other than the survivors? I blame ignorance.

[-] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I will add though that some band chiefs do not make matters better when money given to them doesn't make it to those who need it. They are as much to blame in modern times as much as the federal government.

I refuse to victim blame. These people were put in shitty conditions. What good examples did these people have after having so much of their people, culture and knowledge eradicated? It seems their examples came from their savage invaders.

Blame the true savages who came with murderous intent. They set the expectations. They spread their greedy culture. They made themselves the adult in the room and beat anyone who disagreed with them, including their own who saw the injustices.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not victim blaming, it's been proven even from people living on reserves that they don't see this money come to them (sometimes this is not a absolute truth). What we need is A) build proper housing that's safe B) provide clean drinking water (i cannot believe this is still an issue in 2024) and provide medical care and mental health support to those who need it. And we need to work with these people on the ground, not a representative. This problem needs to end once and for all, and these people need to be recognized as equals, not less.

[-] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Proven? Provide proof.

You seem to know what these people need. What are you willing to do for them? Would you rather fight and die for the Country of Canada or for the people whose land has been stolen?

It sucks being forced to pick a side. I hate it. I don't want it. I want to live in peace but bad people keep doing bad things. My life is threatened when any other group of people are targeted. Sitting on the sidelines pointing fingers at everyone just lets the bad people gather more strength. A person's inaction is someone else's death.

To be transparent on my part, I have not done anything to help beyond learning and listening. I am however working on a project currently that aims to bridge the knowledge gap, even just a little bit.

It's easy to say things, a lot harder to do them.

If it came down to it, I'd die fighting for indigenous people. Invading forces means nothing. If Russia or China took over Canada, that just means even more genocide so what's the difference if Canada is already commiting genocide.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

i'm going hand's off on this one. You just said that we are committing genocide right now. yikes.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Canada is genocidal. From Indigenous peoples to supporting the genocide of Palestinians, Canada is genocidal.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

A) There is no current genocide in Canada B) I refuse to talk about there being a genocide in gaza because there is no bi-partisan news coming from there

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

So you're a genocide denier regarding Indigenous peoples, and you rely on bipartisanism to accept that Palestinians are being systematically eradicated?!

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

no, there WAS genocide in canada not IS. And i refuse to comment on the gaza/israel crisis because the history is too muddled.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Doubling down on genocide denial of still-existing settler-colonialism within America, and calling the genocide in Gaza "muddled" to absolve Canada of its grave sins domestically and abroad. Do some self-crit.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Do you know the history between israel and the plastelines? nakbah and inifada ring and bells to you?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Yep, more than you do evidently, both Israel and the "Plastelines" as you call Palestinians.

Israel's century-long existence is as a settler-colonial apartheid state backed by Nazi Germany, and currently commits genocide to expand territory and project Western power in the area to secure the Petro Dollar. Its existence endanger Jewish diaspora by fostering hatred for itself, a practice intentional to fuel the narrative that it is "the only safe haven for Jews in the world." Furthermore, Israel is antisemetic towards Yiddish speaking Jews.

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[-] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

The year is 2024, we stuffed a group of people into reservations and federally announced that we don't need to provide clean drinking water to the people forced into those reservations. You mentioned that yourself.

Just because there's no bullets flying does not mean these people aren't suffering. Physically, mentally, it's pain for them. I stand by my statement.

The yikes should be pointed at those to enable these horrifying actions. The yikes should be pointed at those who refuse to acknowledge these horrifying actions.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Does the invading country have universal health care?

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

That doesn't really matter to me. If it did i see your point. But i am proud to be Canadian and will defend the country with my life. I was born here and this is my home, i wouldn't let any other country change it at all, our politics will be decided by the peoples of our country, not other countries to roll in with tanks and soldiers.

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[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

i don't condone war. i prefer diplomatic solutions.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

What you're espousing is a textbook definition of nationalism, so there you go, now you know your ideology

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

You might want to get on that!

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

naw, im 34, seen and read too much crap. nothing makes sense and its all lies or empty promises. like i said, i guess im not a leftist because i don't believe that citizens should legally be allowed to own firearms.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

You can be a Leftist that opposes gun ownership in a post-revolutionary status, while recognizing its necessity in current conditions.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

i don't see a necessity in the present. I am happy with the gun laws in my country although not ideal, at least people don't have guns laying around their house or people walking around with pistols holstered on their waist other than the police who require weapons for their jobs.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

So then you tacitly support Capitalism and Imperialism, then.

[-] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

police do not require weapons

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The invasion is coming from inside the house.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I don't agree with that. While it may be true in other countries, i have never felt not safe in my country.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I wasn't talking about your personal feelings.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

well sorry it's shit for you friend.

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