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Sometimes people provide a public service to humanity is very dark ways. Do not turn this guy in.
Further, legality should not be considered a measure of justice. The best thing to do is often illegal. Laws are made by politicians, and politicians are overwhelmingly representing the owning class, not typical people, so the utopian idea that laws are fair is completely ignorant of the real legal and political system defining them.
The murderer of that innocent man needs to be brought to justice.
You mean the man who's company let sick people die by denying proper healthcare, all for the sake of profits? That innocent man? Do not turn this guy in.
By your logic everyone who works any job deserves to die. Your logic is not logical.
That's not implied by their logic at all. Not every person is in a position of power like this CEO was, the majority of people don't have a job that denies people necessary healthcare, and many people will not make the choice to be unethical like this CEO chose.
I understand, and disagree with, the argument that vigilante justice is completely uncalled for but you're not doing your argument justice here
Murder is not justified for someone working a job people don't like.
If someone's job is to cause death and suffering and they profit from it then yeah maybe they should face the same.
Calling what this guy did for a living "just a job" is absurd.
It's not his job to cause death. It was his job to run a company.
A company where the stated objective was to prioritize profit at the cost of human life. That's a job to cause death.
The people working for that company are not likely to be in a position to quit over ethical issues, as they are trying to feed their families, but the CEO of that company made decisions that directly impacted other people lives and likely killed many. If he didn't want to deny claims for care, he could have resigned. Instead, he profited.
His job was to cause death. As is the job of all for-profit health care companies.
You could say the same thing about a manager at McDonald's. They don't deserve to die.
That makes literally no sense
It makes sense. He worked a job, other people work a job. Same thing.
"I can't believe they threw me in jail. I pulled a trigger on a gun and shot someone. But other people pull triggers on nail guns all the time and don't go to jail! It's the same thing!"
That's you right now. Two things can be described by the same action but have very different effects, both morally and legally.
Your analogy isn't logical whereas mine is.
Are you just trolling or what
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Okay. Would you mind explaining to me why two courses of action being jobs makes them equally okay?
Not all jobs are equal: not in pay, not in proximity to the people who actually carry out the orders of Leadership, not in consequences, not in collaboration with others.
For example, Biden has the authority to stop the transfer of arms to Israel, even after Congress has approved of it. That decision would have much greater impacts on Israel's ability to carry out their genocide on the Palestinian people.
A McDonald's manager has no say in weather those arms make it to Israel or not.
Different positions call for different levels of ethical consideration. Maybe the United Healthcare CEO should have considered ethics and morals more when he decided to prioritize profit over human lives.
Consequently, you could also make the same diagnosis for Biden because this whole Israel thing is nuking his legacy.
That's obviously not their logic. This is hilarious to read.
I would have agreed if u would have said murderer of that man saying he is innocent just make you seem ignorant of the meaning of that word.
The strapping young man deserves the same justice as the marine from Seal Team six who killed Osama.
that 'innocent man' killed thousands of people for profit. Fuck off with your Disney cartoon ass morality.
In a perfect world, where all criminals white or blue are brought to justice under the same hammer, you would have a point and my heart.
But the world is not just; you know that, I know that, they know that.
Yo bro are you a ceo? Are you related to the dude that got got? Your hard on for “justice” for the ceo is really weird
I'm just into morality. Murder is wrong.
Do the smart thing, instead of arguing with people who think premeditated homicide can be justified just take advantage of these posts to block those people. Lemmy doesn't have that big of a community so if you actually take the time to block them you'll see a lot less of extremist brainwashed people in your feed
This is, evidently, a common mainstream view. If we lived in a world where the legal system actually worked and was a viable option for dealing with them non-violently, perhaps this view wouldn't be popular, but the working class can't afford to pretend the system is fair. Just like citizens defending against a military invasion, sometimes homicide is the only effective action left to try.
I have been blocking people. There's so many people to block.
Soooo many accounts blocked the last few days. Bad things can happen to bad people without frothing at the mouth and going full bloodlust, but so many people here seem incapable of that.
I get it, the victim could not be any more unsympathetic. But the responses here are beyond sickening. Thank you for being level headed; I appreciate you.
Yes, I cannot believe how many people would like to see those they don't like just gunned down in cold blood. What is next? You don't like the homeless person on the corner so you just shoot them in the head?