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This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let's be civil.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 35 points 3 months ago

You mean the man who's company let sick people die by denying proper healthcare, all for the sake of profits? That innocent man? Do not turn this guy in.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

By your logic everyone who works any job deserves to die. Your logic is not logical.

[-] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's not implied by their logic at all. Not every person is in a position of power like this CEO was, the majority of people don't have a job that denies people necessary healthcare, and many people will not make the choice to be unethical like this CEO chose.

I understand, and disagree with, the argument that vigilante justice is completely uncalled for but you're not doing your argument justice here

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Murder is not justified for someone working a job people don't like.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 14 points 3 months ago

If someone's job is to cause death and suffering and they profit from it then yeah maybe they should face the same.

Calling what this guy did for a living "just a job" is absurd.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

It's not his job to cause death. It was his job to run a company.

[-] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 3 months ago

A company where the stated objective was to prioritize profit at the cost of human life. That's a job to cause death.

The people working for that company are not likely to be in a position to quit over ethical issues, as they are trying to feed their families, but the CEO of that company made decisions that directly impacted other people lives and likely killed many. If he didn't want to deny claims for care, he could have resigned. Instead, he profited.

His job was to cause death. As is the job of all for-profit health care companies.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

You could say the same thing about a manager at McDonald's. They don't deserve to die.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

That makes literally no sense

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

It makes sense. He worked a job, other people work a job. Same thing.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"I can't believe they threw me in jail. I pulled a trigger on a gun and shot someone. But other people pull triggers on nail guns all the time and don't go to jail! It's the same thing!"

That's you right now. Two things can be described by the same action but have very different effects, both morally and legally.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Your analogy isn't logical whereas mine is.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Are you just trolling or what

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago
[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Okay. Would you mind explaining to me why two courses of action being jobs makes them equally okay?

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Not all jobs are equal: not in pay, not in proximity to the people who actually carry out the orders of Leadership, not in consequences, not in collaboration with others.

For example, Biden has the authority to stop the transfer of arms to Israel, even after Congress has approved of it. That decision would have much greater impacts on Israel's ability to carry out their genocide on the Palestinian people.

A McDonald's manager has no say in weather those arms make it to Israel or not.

Different positions call for different levels of ethical consideration. Maybe the United Healthcare CEO should have considered ethics and morals more when he decided to prioritize profit over human lives.

Consequently, you could also make the same diagnosis for Biden because this whole Israel thing is nuking his legacy.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

That's obviously not their logic. This is hilarious to read.

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