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[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The joker is the worst one to use here regardless of the universe you use. In that particular universe he's more akin to the weird fucking red pill/mra movement than an anti capitalist since he was loosely based on Bernie geatz. It's why the maga sphere went crazy for what was a series of terrible movies that they entirely miss the point of.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The core message of that movie was anti capitalist, with added messaging on the effects of a deteriorating quality of life/mental health system.

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I think the message is that there's a thin line between the hero and the villain. The villain feels the same anger and desire for justice we all do. Just add a bit of delusion, and you can turn Gandhi into Hitler, or Batman into the Joker.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's really not though, it's about modern moral failings and their outcomes that happen to have economic effects and notably none of the issues persued in the movie are exclusive to capitalist models.

The Batman universe is to some degree anti capitalist but the protagonist being one of the richest people in the planet who cannonically got that money by theft, violence and arms dealing kinda cancels that out.

You can read what you want into it but it specifically was not anti capitalist. It's outright glorification of the Bernie geatz model, ie. A crybaby lower middle class white man who goes bat shit on the subway and blames literally everyone else but himself.

Similarly Bernie geatz was very much a capitalist.

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