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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 61 points 16 hours ago

Feminists always think women are better then men, until they are provided with proof that they are just as shitty because (surprise surprise) women are just humans too.

[-] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 26 points 7 hours ago

You're thinking of misandrists. Feminism is about equality of the sexes. Other groups (eg misandrists and terfs) sometimes claim to be feminist as a cover. A feminist believes men and woman are equals, a misogynist believes women are inferior, and a misandrist believes men are inferior.

[-] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 2 points 7 hours ago

Feminism is about equality of the sexes.

I have never seen this to be applicable. From people its always one extreme side or the other.

[-] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago

You've most certainly seen it to be applicable. The issue is, the most arrogant people are always the loudest. People who claim to be feminist, but are terfs or misandrist usually garner the most negative attention and people start to only believe that feminism only means that thing. Feminism isn't very eye catching. People who are it don't scream at the top of their lungs.

Feminism is more widespread than you might believe too. Cause it's really really simple. Women and men are equal, deserve equal rights and for the majority of examples, can perform the same tasks.

[-] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 12 points 7 hours ago

Equality doesn't mean equal treatmeant, but equal outcomes. Obvious black and white examples like men don't need cervix screening.

There are more nuanced things too, like homeless rates, suicide rates, career opportunities, sexual assault victims, education graduation rates, family court biases etc. All things that require nuanced attention between the sexes, and aren't easy to get right.

99% of feminists are just your every day person, wishing for a more equitable world. There's fringe parties of every socially political movement. I've kind of always wished there was a slightly more balanced name, but the movement started from the suffragettes, so it makes sense from a historical stand point.

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Often "equality" is used to refer to legal and societal systems closer to equal treatment, and "equity" is used to refer to systems closer to equal outcomes.

Of course, the terms as defined in the dictionary are very similar, while how close the ideas they represent are when applied depends substantially on what is being considered, when, and how.

[-] Aaron@lemmy.nz 7 points 6 hours ago

Hi, it's me, a non extreme feminist! (We agree, except on the word never and always, so just read)

Sometimes it looks like extremes because in order to have equality, or equity, you have to change existing systems that promote the inequality and inequity. This to some may look like favouring the minority (power not number), when in fact it could just be trying to undo some of the damage. For example, changing a system that promotes men over women would involve maybe extra research into women's health, because studies almost always don't take into account that women's bodies are different. BMI was built for men, dosages for medication are typically figured out for men, etc. Same goes with other minorites, btw. This extra research may make a majority group member feel like the system is prioritising others to the detriment of their self, when in fact it's just trying to establish an equilibrium, as that research (from the example) is already there for them.

Now from people? Yes, you are right. Sometimes (you may say often or a hyperbolic always) adherents will be wrong about what feminism is. That's a struggle that the idea has to contend with just like every other movement. But feminism itself isn't about extremes of hate, though the systemic change to bring about feminist goals may feel extreme due to the scale of work to be done.

[-] chuymatt@startrek.website 2 points 6 hours ago

… have you met humans? Moderation is difficult. Capitalism and Communism both have difficulty not sucking due to humans. People always just take everything too far.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 63 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

None of the feminists I've ever personally met do this. Are you sure you're not just rageposting right wing propaganda?

Asserting that "women are just humans too" is literally feminism.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 10 hours ago

I was so angry when I posted that, you can't imagine! The phone I used at the time ended being thrown out of the window and killing a cat. Pure, unbridled, boiling rage.

None of the feminists I've ever personally met do this

The sample size to beat them all

[-] petrol_sniff_king 6 points 4 hours ago

You're not beating the allegations, my friend.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 hours ago

You don't know the meaning of allegations, bud.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago

Hey pal, just wanted to let you know that this type of reply doesn't make you seem any less angry or upset. Hopefully this helps in any future contentious conversations you may have.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 hours ago

Son, you sound like the girlfriend that just starts asking "why are you angry?" and insisting that you're angry until you get angry, then to finally say "you're too angry to discuss, I'll let you cool down". Where'd you learn how to gaslight like that?

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Whoa guy, you gotta warn me before all that protection, you almost burned my eyes out

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 32 minutes ago

Yeah sorry, good catch. Imma leave it though

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 30 points 12 hours ago

Feminists don't think women are better than men. They also believe women are just humans too.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 10 hours ago

Rational feminists do, yes. The loud online feminists like the one depicted though...

[-] petrol_sniff_king 2 points 4 hours ago

You got that from a single sentence?

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 hours ago

Maybe stop sniffing petrol before you respond. Or learn the meaning of the word context. Could be helpful in the future. You never know ;)

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 52 points 15 hours ago

Curse those darn feminists /s

Really though the problem here is social media where saying something provacative and obviously wrong will net you more interactions than being cautious and thorough.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 20 points 14 hours ago

That's true. The feminists that believe in this crap do not represent the majority of feminists, just the loud, online feminists.

[-] Phineaz@feddit.org 38 points 15 hours ago

Making a lot of assumptions there, buddy.

Remember, only a Sith will deal in absolutes.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago
[-] Phineaz@feddit.org 22 points 14 hours ago
[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 14 hours ago

Yes, people never exaggerate.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

To play devil's advocate. Context and usage matter.

The phrase "xxxxx always" has become synonymous with "xxxxx almost always" in this context. Especially, in casual English used on the Internet. The "almost" is implied...

(Disclaimer: this isn't meant to defend the OP, who is most likely a sexist shit big :P )

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 7 hours ago

Women are humans too

"sExiST sHiT bAg!!1!1!"

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

women are just humans too.

What the fuck

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 14 hours ago

Are you unable to understand that simple statement in the context of the phrase? Or what is it you're having trouble understanding?

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago

I am shitposting by reacting incredulously to a very obvious and factual statement.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 14 hours ago

Shitpost away my dude.

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