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[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

The attitude that led to Trumps victory is born of the very belief that the ship sailed long ago. It turns out that when you paint your common man as a villain, their ego is all too happy to oblige. Or just burn out and stay home, calling it someone else's problem.

I'm not sure why you are so eager to blame your common man when you yourself are quick to point out that billionaires are the problem.

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

The common man keeps falling for it when he has an obligation to be better

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

I do blame the common man. Shit like this is why I'm a misanthrope. Humanity is so disappointing. Biggest brains imaginable, yet not using them.
Reality is making me a bitter man.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

GTFO bro. this entire "we need to have 'conversation' with nazis" was never going to happen. it's a fucking cult. they literally throw cold hard facts out the window the instant it veers out of alignment with trump's propaganda machine.

it's actually not surprising to me, that you're blaming everyone EXCEPT ignorant brainwashed hateful racist misogynistic trump voters for trump winning. because you've also been somehow convinced that they are the victims here. you are 10000000% wrong, and i'll repeat what i said ad infinitum:

fuck trump, fuck everyone who voted for him, fuck everyone who voted 3rd party, and fuck everyone who didn’t vote.

edit: this sums it up https://lemmy.world/post/22517923

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Please go back to the start of this conversation. I did not say we should be learning to understand nazis. Fuck nazis. But your average person who stayed at home is not a racist, secret neo-nazi. A large portion of voters who chose Trump over Kamala are also not voting to hurt others. By and large, voters are uneducated by design, and feeding into that design by calling them all nazi's is deepening the problem.

I feel for you, because I also know how you get to feelings like yours, but this attitude is one of many problems, and I am approaching it exactly the way I am suggesting we need to: with understanding and discussion. I'm not blaming you. I get it. And that's exactly my point.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

this approach has been failing for years. if you voted for a nazi, then guess what, you're a fucking nazi. if you voted 3rd party, or didn't vote at all, then nazism wasn't that big of a problem for you, and you're a nazi.

again, (and again and again), this "we need to have 'conversation' with them" has completely failed, as evidenced by 11/5/2024.

but seriously, how do you propose to talk to someone who dismisses verifiable evidence in favor of whatever fantasy bullshit trump just pulled out of his ass 10 seconds ago? someone who, instead of saying "maybe i misspoke," will draw a shitty circle on a NOAA weather map with a sharpie to try and "prove" that he was right about where a hurricane would hit?

my advice to you is start really thinking about who your real friends will be under fascism-- trump voters? LOL
possible. however, unlikely.

this post was submitted on 26 Nov 2024
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