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[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

Yes. As long as you recognize that the reality you just spoke of is that one guy in an ivory tower thought Biden did a good job.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

But Mr ivory tower is right. What do we do now that we know everyone really is too stupid to understand that? What do we do now that a bunch of ignorant assholes prefer the lies?

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well to start with you don't disdain them.

You treat them like people, and you find out what their needs are, what their fears are. And you address those. Not like Trump did. Not fanning the flames of their worst emotions. But leading them. Like Obama did. Like Kennedy did. Inspiring them that you can change their lives for the better.

When someone's worried that they're not able to feed the children and you're talking about climate change, you sound incredibly out of touch. When people are working two jobs and still can't pay the light bill, and you're talking about trans rights, you sound incredibly out of touch.

People don't hate addressing climate change. People don't hate trans people's rights. What they hate is being ignored for those things. And Trump pointed them at that and made them mad.

Democrats are not selling themselves as the party of the poor or the middle class. They are selling themselves as the party of the fringe and the universities - and the poor and middle class feel betrayed.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

You're forgetting the part where they prefer the lies.

Turns out Carl Sagan's are rare, but practically anyone can be an Alex Jones.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

No doubt, building is a harder job than destroying. Breaking is easier than making.

But they're both creative acts. They both "change things". It's on us to message the one that's productive.

Kennedy said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country!" Great speech phrasing, and he was an incredible speaker. But how do you sell that message?

You don't ignore or disdain. You include. It's hard damn work. But you can't win assuming the voters will just "get it."

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, and your blasting everyone left of Hillary for not being Carl Sagan, and giving all the Alex Jones's a pass because we weren't nice enough to them.

It's not realistic, I'd even be willing to argue it's not logistically possible with the headwinds created by mass misinformation and a willful disregard for facts as the idiots seek solace in escapism.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Well then we're doomed. Because hoping people "get it" and vote correctly doesn't work, tangibly.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The other option is lie to them better than the Republicans do.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

If you're suffering, it's because you're stupid. Vote for us!

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