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The difference between Russian and American authoritarianism

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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

On the surface it seems like these comparisons are valid, but there’s truly a world of difference in how America deals with its people.

The fact still remains that skilled immigrants can come to America and make a life for themselves. It doesn’t matter who they are. Or that non-white or non-Christians can get elected to the U.S. congress.

America started out with an idealism it’s failing to live up to, and it’s the fault of those who indulge realpolitiks over that idealism. This isn’t an America problem, there’s a rot that’s taken over the soul of humanity. We’re casting aside intellectualism and enlightenment for realpolitiks.

Make no mistake though, people cannot be trusted so you always have to protect yourself. But there’s no civilization without ideals for humanity.

[-] LadyAutumn 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

America was founded by genocidal slavers who were angry about being unfairly taxed.

America has never been a moral nation. It is literally founded on stolen land, paved over the bodies of that land's natives, and built by the labor of the enslaved.

I would agree that America is not the only nation in the world with many of these problems. I'm an anarchist, so I fundamentally don't really believe that a completely moral state is ever possible. But even so America stands out particularly starkly even in comparison to other contemporary states.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think your point is valid, but what I am saying is we shouldn’t begrudge the past its lack of perfection. Let’s look at where people are now, and where they can go from here.

Looking for answers in the past is often a fools errand. We need to shed the baggage of our forefathers.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

For sure. It's absolutely valid to criticize the US on all of these points, but when people equate it with what goes on in Russia, it mostly tells me that people don't fully realize how much worse the situation is in countries like Russia. As someone who was born in an Eastern Bloc country and whose grandparents actually went to jail for their political beliefs, I think it's good to sometimes remind yourself about how different a life we now thankfully get to enjoy.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not sure what the downvotes are about - i agree with the above comment. ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] StarshotJohn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Great point. America is a perfect example of human brain rot and ignorance, but it's worldwide.

[-] StarshotJohn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'd love to know why some folks downvoted me. I'm an American and have seen it from California to Minnesota to Maine. It's not an insult to the US. It's an insult to human beings.

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