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In what way were we wrong? Did we ever claim Trump would be good on Gaza?
Yes. Now fuck off.
exit polls showed that harris lost mainly on the economy. You just want to pretend it was gaza so you can point fingers.
Nope, it was the apathy. Democrats that came out to vote for Biden 4 years ago stayed home. That's a FACT you can count in the number of votes cast this election vs last.
You know what else is a fact? People that stayed home and didn't vote DIDN'T GET EXIT POLLED.
Exit polls and polls leading up to election. Come on now, lets not mince words or pretend the data wasnt obvious. They did know. It was all over the news snce the day she started her run.
"The economy, particularly inflation and the cost of living, is the primary issue for a majority of voters."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm24g1nj364o
Bidens historically low approval rating was well documented, and the reason for it being low was well understood. She chose to say that "she couldnt think of anything she'd change" or something like that. She ran on a platform that had already ended up on the rocks long ago. Centrists just put their fingers in their ears and pretended Biden was the second coming of FDR whenever Biden was criticised, but the numbers were there waiting to be read if you cared about reality and dropped the infantile "rooting for your sports team, blue no matter who" mentality.
88% of Americans disagreed with how the US was acting in the Israeli war on gazans. Did you think that would be cost-free, or that Biden showed he had votes to burn in the last election or the ones before that? he didnt. Harris knew that wouldnt be consequence free. She ran with it anyway. Thats just Bidens stubborn rightwing-fellating petulant stupidity thats been the hallmark of his entire career bleeding into Harrnis' campaign. A competent politician wouldnt have taken on that baggage when it was so obviously going to cost big in swing states.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/arab-american-voters-struggle-to-back-harris-over-u-s-support-for-israels-war-in-gaza
"The vice president has said she would not change from Biden’s policies, and argued that Israel has a right to defend itself. But she has also said that far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4895174-democrats-middle-east-conflict/
She said she wouldn't have done anything differently from what Biden did. When asked what the difference between a Harris and Biden admin would be, she said she would appoint a republican to the cabinet.
Exit polls are flawed in the sense that the people who don't vote aren't there to begin with.
God forbid someone point a finger for supporting genocide
Shut up pro-Russian account.
(He'll start whining something personal, my proof is in that he won't answer the question "are you pro-Russian", watch;)
Are you pro-Russian? (And yes, this is related to the thread because you can't not be trusted a pro-Putler person to talk about genocide when you don't accept Uighur genocide happening either.)
edit after a week; case in point; the whole thread below this. just squirming and squirming not so say they're not Russian. They literally support genocide, from this thread, you can easily see what a Russian troll actually looks like. It's someone with a poor education and poor understanding of Western culture trying to parrot Soviet propaganda styles from the 70's. anyone's who's sat a few classes of rhetoric will get a good laugh out of him, lol.
middle school dropout
Why would you advertise being a drop-out? Russian education is already so garbage.
Are you pro-Russian? Simple question. Just say you're against Putler invading Ukraine, unless you're actively for it?
lol you quoted me being illiterate that makes you dumb
my entire personality is an uno reverse card why don't I have friends
So you are pro-Russian and support Russia breaking international laws with their invasion of Ukraine?
Having a full on tantrum because I refuse to let you hijack the actual argument with your aggressive demands that I salute the flag
Lol look at you go
Yes, politely asking the same question you've always refused to answer, just like davel@lemmy.ml does as well.
It's really not weird for anyone that you don't reply. We know you can't trust your government enough to even when you're spreading it's propaganda to lie about not agreeing with it. Like how in North Korea you'd never joke about harming Dear Leader.
That's why you refuse to say you're not pro-Russian. Because you are. If your education wasn't so bad, you might realise that this is pretty clear for everyone else. :)
A single Yes-or-No question. "A tantrum". You need more English lessons, comrade.
This guy is refusing to answer if he's a secret jew
His argument about the validity of accusing everyone who pushes back on my nazi ideology a secret jew is just a smokescreen for being a secret jew
:) we see you, jew
You can tell I'm maintaining my emotional balance because I used a smiley face and bold instead of capslock
Your grammar tells a story about being really annoyed.
You can lie and spread any manner of weird bullshit, even jokingly.
But you can't say you're against Putin? You can't say you're not pro-Russian? Even though they're a despicable backhole third world autocracy lead by coward who looks like a deflated penis?
Is it because you're afraid of falling out a window..? ;>
Edit also fuck Israel Netanyahu is evil just like Putler
That's right. You're a piece of shit racist toadie and you're being very annoying. I'm not the Ben Shapiro motherfucker elevating cold, emotionless sociopathy as a decisive virtue. Fuck is your point?
What weird bullshit am I spreading? I'm very deliberately drawing a parallel between your modern, and very much cultivated racism and the historical antisemitism it mirrors. They function the same way and serve the exact same purpose for those in power. You're just too stupid to have that level of self awareness on your own.
Racist?
How do you figure that one? Is it because I criticised your glorious leader and — because you've been programmed to — you took it personally.
I have nothing against Russians. I strongly believe the best thing for Russians is to oppose the wannabe-hitler you have as a leader.
Perhaps it's because this isn't your native language, but talking about a nation is different than talking about the people who live in that nation. Or maybe that's not even a language barrier, you just have bad reading comprehension, because Russian education isn't too doing hot. Again, another reason for Putin to fall out of a window.
Take back your country you pathetic bootlicker. You know that Russia broke international laws by invading Ukraine, you're just scared to admit it even on Lemmy, because people in Russia have actually "fallen out of windows" after criticising the govenrment on social media.
You personally don't need to support the current government, but you can also let people know that by saying shit that isn't like direct kill threats to Putin.
But perhaps you've actually drank the koolaid and believe that Ukraine needed to be "denazified" and that's the sole reason for Putler having invaded it?
You want me to explain to you how your sinister outsider trope is racist? How your depiction of an entire population as being so mentally inferior that they'd be susceptible to 'brainwashing' is racist? How the social punishment for speaking against your nazi government is to be disowned and turned into 'one of them'?
I'm not explaining shit to you. You know what you're doing.
"Sinister outsider."
Again, nothing wrong with Russians. I know many here in Finland, and they aren't to say that Putler is a genocidal sick fuck.
Poor education doesn't mean youre mentally inferior. It means you got worse education. Someone who went to Oxford is bound to have a better reading comprehension than someone who's never opened a book, I'm sure you'd agree.
Poor education does mean people have less media literacy, meaning they will be more susceptible to even low quality propaganda. And Russia has high quality propaganda.
I want Russians to have better education, thus I advocate for you to get rid of your disgusting tinydick dictator.
"You know what you're doing."
Yes, standing up to Putin's crimes against humanity while trying to deprogram a Russian who presumably supports international crimes Putin commits...?
No? No answer again? Weird how my Russian friends here in Finland answer that in a heartbeat. Though mostly schooled in Finland as well, reiterating my earlier points.
Oh of course I would misconstrue a position as subtle and well considered as yours. They're not stupid it's just that Russia is famously bad at educating their population! Famously! They must have imported those rockets or something! It's not like you're just working backwards from your premise that they're easily led astray by propaganda (which itself is working backwards from believing differently than you). See? Not racist! Just an inferior culture! Have you met my friend David Duke?
Rage and childish strawman, zzzz. Come to Finland, my Russian friends will shake that Putler boot out of your mouth in your native tongue.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/PISA-2018-test-results-for-Russia-and-Kazakhstan_tbl2_362764193
You can't get better education systems before you get rid of the cunt at the top who cares less about the average Russian than I do.
You still haven't given your opinion on Russia having broken international law with invading Ukraine?
You can just say "I don't dare to comment on that" and I'll leave it, I understand not everyone has as much freedom of speech as us in the Nordics.
Vapid thought termination from the supposedly superior race. It's not that you're too stupid to come up with a good response. There wasn't one. You're just too stupid to understand that you've already been made a fool.
Lol Finland. Big surprise that swastika Norway is repeating antisemetic tropes. Follow your leader.
And what the fuck is this, even? Standardized test results comparing two countries with completely different scores? And not even a word of supporting argumentation explaining what the fuck your pinheaded point is?
You're a fucking moron lmao just literally as dumb as a bag of shit hahaha
Yeah, all those people still reading this 5 day old thread that literally only the two of us are adding comments to. Derp.
The fact that you can't come up with anything to say that isn't a smug "I don't have to say anything" makes you look stupid btw. Not anything I say. Where do you think the accusations that you're a fucking moron come form anyway? Thin air? You really are an idiot.
You look stupid as fuck every time you fail to make a point, I mock you for it, and then you move on like it never happened. Are you ever going to explain what the fuck the point of that link you sent was? Ever? No? Can't think of anything?
I predicted you would ignore my racist bullshit and you have! This proves that I'm smart, not stupid!
Do you believe Russia has broken international law with their illegal war of aggression by invading Ukraine in February 2022?
Also, your English needs work. I don't think you understand the words you use.
why are you still replying to me here as if you're not stalking me in threads that weren't made two weeks ago?
Is it getting a bit serious?
Getting hard to dodge a direct question, and even you start feeling how awkward it is?
Are you pro-Russian and thus support crimes on humanity?
(As a sidenote, Lemmy is tiny, and I browse a lot. That browsing doesn't include your profile.)
Oh so now we trust polls. Got it.
Link or it didn't happen.
Harris lost because of a lack of blue voters who didn't get an exit poll.
There were more red there, and they claim to have voted because of economy because racism and hurting the other team wasn't on the official ticket.
I bet you couldn't even name a single example
There were two ways to vote for Trump. 1) Mark Trump on your ballot and turn it in, or 2) Not vote for Harris, not turn in a ballot at all.
Quit being coy, just take a bow and acknowledge your victory. You stood strong against genocide, and helped elect the only candidate who can't be reasoned with and whose stated political policy was to SPEED UP THE GENOCIDE. Congrats! If you thought their blood wasn't on your hands before, it absolutely is now.
By this logic a vote for Jill Stein would be a vote for Harris, lol. Question your political masters, this just isn't logical at all.
It is good for Democratic voters to have failed while supporting genocide. You shouldn't support genocide and I shouldn't have to lecture you like this. Be a good person.
Israel already has unconditional support for its genocide and opened up two new fronts with the suppory of the Biden-Harris administration. Israel does not have one hsnd tied behind its back. The dominant global empire supports it materially and diplomatically.
Your lesser evil logic means nothing here. It is again just a thought terminating cliché from your political masters. Instead of justifying lesser-evil genocide, please go and inform yourself and work to help others.
Blood is on the hands of those committing and supporting genocide, not those who fifht against it. Look at how this political illogic has twisted your understanding of basic reality.
In that case, Trump has won with an overwhelming majority in every election he's ever run in, since nonvoters are like half the population and all of them count as voting for Trump.
Back here in reality, that's not how it works.
Genocide Joe has been an established term for months.