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Can we do anything about this at all? This is not how a civilized nation acts. We are barbarians.
It would require acting outside the confines of the law, because fascists aren't bound by the law either. And the more the US government is made obvious to be a joke, the more people might finally get the fucking clue that institutions are meaningless when they don't actually enforce the rules or provide meaningful support for what the working class actually needs, and they might eventually decide to do something about it.
That is, of course, hopeful thinking on my part, but I think it's the only correct answer to "what can we do when an overt fascist has power".
Additionally, on an interpersonal level, you need to find communities IRL if you don't have them, and be defiant together. Don't let these evil fucks normalize anymore bigotry or conspiracies than they already have. Even if social norms would dictate otherwise, call that shit out when it happens.
And don't preemptively give up or resign your position if you hold some sort of influential role in society. Don't make it easy for them. Every single bit of defiance makes it that much harder to impose the hell which they intend to inflict, which is in and of itself valuable.
Yeah. Rule of law has already broken down. The only law left is what they are imposing on us. It has no legitimacy.
All you can do is aid and abet any targets of these grossly immoral and illegal actions. Not sure on the specifics of how yet given we don’t know how they’re going to attempt to do this…but once they do, that’s when we figure that out.
That's not all you can do. Demonstrations, occupations, interfering with illegal and unconstitutional actions, rebel media, graff, grassroots organizing, mutial support, smuggling of people and supplies. Find like-minded people, form cells, leave your phone at home, drive old cars without GPS or use bicycles. Only use cash. Learn what your neighborhood and city are like, and learn to be anonymous.
Why does everyone go straight to guns and riots? Make a fucken People's PAC. Play the corpos and elites at their own game. Then if that doesnt work we can get the pitchforks.
I agree with you but it also seems like we haven't tried since Occupy Wallstreet.
Yep, I kinds fear it will be like this forever, because so far it has been. As far back as history can see.
Agreed except that’s definitely not the only way into the system.
It’s just the only way to have implicit trust from most while on the inside. That’s because (deep breath) who in their right mind would forfeit their birthright to save their lessers?
Of course I’d like to think I would but will never know. In history, however, we can see that there are always a few individuals who do precisely that.
Also one way to fix it from the inside goes kaboom.
eh I dunno. If a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight and his computer says you own a gun, isnt there a much higher chance that they will freak out and shoot you for flimsy reasons?
Guns tend to raise tensions wherever they are at. Cause they're life delete buttons.
You aren't wrong. But being walked all over because you took the high ground instead of responding in kind to someone else raising tensions isn't the answer. Just ask how that worked out for the Ukrainians who gave up their nukes.
It takes two to deescalate.
What went wrong with Occupy? I need to look into that again. Cause you're just gonna either get put down under the Trump Admin with guns or revolutionary behavior. Not that we aren't gonna be down to guerilla but it seems like an extremely rough and costly life. Best hope on that is the Purged Generals decide to take America back.
you realize cops have computers in their cars right? And they look up your record when they pull you over? Do you even drive?
They'll see your gun registration.
I prefer the term "shithole country". That way we can still blame it on other people and not collectively own any of the barbarity ourselves.
I mean, you CAN, but you won’t.
☝️ He's out of line, but he's right.
— Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45
Found the GRU agent.
Not applicable.
We'll see.
We are not powerless. As the old song asked, are you taking orders, or are you taking over?
They're taking over. We aren't powerless. But its about to get bad.