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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Can’t you takeover a blockchain by owning the majority of a block chain, or by having a majority of the processing power to compute hashes?

[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Yes which is part of why the major chains are owned and controlled by companies, but then that makes the whole thing pointless. IMO, a company controlled blockchain may as well just be a DB cluster, it would be faster and more efficient.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Are you saying that they “solve” that by never giving up more than 49% stake?

That… seems like a bad solution

[-] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

If you had 51% of the world's computing power (to blockchains using proof of work) yes you could forge records, from what I could wrap my head around about blockchains.

[-] Strykker@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago

You don't need 51% of the world's power though, just 51% of the power of people who care about how the system works. Most people using block chain cryptos don't care at all, so the threshold is a tiny percentage of the user base.

[-] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah you're right. I was thinking specifically Bitcoin and the astronomical amount of compute power that's behind it.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

That’s proof of work. Proof of stake is you just need more than everyone else, right?

[-] ConnecticutKen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It works more like loaning money and then receiving interest, except you are loaning crypto to the network and then you get it back, plus some, after a certain period of time

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Is the network not considered a third party

[-] ConnecticutKen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This would just create a fork in the blockchain where 51% of the network doesn't match the correct state of the blockchain that the 49% have. The 49% would effectively stop working because they could never validate the transactions that the 51% takeover has falsely created. The node operators of the 49% of the network would need to reach consensus for how to deal with the problem, but essentially they would just adopt code that ignores the 51% data, so they could continue to process blocks of transactions. Without manual intervention the 49% would be frozen. The 51% is just fake, they haven't really changed anything because every real node operator would know it's false data.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

What if the 51% have already completed the consensus process?

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Those things sound possible, but I’m not knowledgeable enough to speculate. Sorry.

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