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[-] blazera@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Alright this is gettin a bit much, Bernie endorsed all of this shit. The change he's talking about was on the ballot and he was pushing the conservative coddling moderate.

[-] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 43 points 8 months ago

He was trying to do everything he could to prevent Trump. That meant holding his tongue so as not to encourage people against strategic voting. It's a very dumb system we have, but it's not Bernie's fault we're in it.

Now that the general is over, he can speak his mind again. And probably a hint of getting ahead of the Democratic Party's inevitable blaming of the left for this loss rather than an ounce of introspection.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Not everything, one thing, the same thing everyone here was trying to do, the same thing the DNC was doing, trying to appeal to conservatives. This is the result, no one wanted conservative democrats, but everyone was holding their nose and pushing for it.

Now after the fact people are trying to act like they support progressives.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

What else was he to do? Sometimes the lesser of 2 evils is the only choice.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Endorse an even lesser evil, perhaps even popular good? Why was Kamala the only person in the world that wasnt Trump?

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Because no one else could win.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

She didnt win. Thats literally the only thing you see in her, and even that is not there.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

And what, you think Putin’s favorite Jill Stein would? Cornel West?

She came far and away the closest.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

With a Bernie endorsement? Without democrats fighting to ban them from even being allowed to run? If progressive voters supported progressive candidates?

But nah, theres a photo of Jill and Putin in proximity of eachother. And you cant even bother to think of a reason to oppose West.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

There was a zero percent chance them winning, Bernie endorsement or no.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

There was a zero percent chance of Kamala winning. You cant hide behind that electability argument anymore because it turns out the candidate you supported wasnt "electable"

Oh but youll blame the voters for that one. If only they voted for your candidate they would have won. Well guess what happens if voters voted for my candidate? Yall held your nose and half assed supported a candidate none of you like. Like that was ever gonna beat Trump. Its gonna take genuine support, enthusiasm and belief for a candidate that supports the progressive policies all of us want.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

lol, Harris had like a 100000000000 times better shot of winning than any third party candidate

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You act like its a lottery instead of a decision voters are making. Anyone can have any odds of winning if the voters say so

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

And how many decades ago did a 3rd party get a single electoral vote?

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yes i am talking about doing things differently than we have been. Its a normal thing in other countries to make such massive changes as electing different parties for the first time.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago
[-] blazera@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Ill continue fighting against you to make it happen

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

It’s not about me fighting a 3rd party candidate. It’s that it doesn’t work in first past the post elections. It’s rare they get even 5%.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah youre showing the me the results of people like you fighting against 3rd party candidates.

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