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[-] ravhall@discuss.online 5 points 8 months ago

Why? Spend the money here.

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 71 points 8 months ago

Fucking idiot. The replacement weapons will be made here and paid to companies here

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 5 points 8 months ago

We don’t need to give money to conservative owned weapon manufacturers.

[-] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago
[-] ravhall@discuss.online 4 points 8 months ago

Or, don’t spend money on weapons. I guess now that trump won, we don’t have to pretend to be nonviolent eh?

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 16 points 8 months ago

Were you dropped on your head as a baby or something?

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago

Not as hard as you were.

[-] 5715@feddit.org 6 points 8 months ago

Lalala... Can't hear you, Putin, Xi, Jong-un, Chamenei... lalala

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

Are you saying that if we don’t fight, those people will take control?

[-] 5715@feddit.org 9 points 8 months ago

I'm saying that unchecked bad actors are going to act bad. The American people don't seem to know this, but the US hasn't been isolationist for more than a century. Also, 2001.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago
[-] 5715@feddit.org 8 points 8 months ago

Airplanes tend to stay in air only, unless there's a WTC in the way.

[-] seeyouatthepartyrichter@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago
[-] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago
[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 months ago

What's your opinion about lend lease on WW2?

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Bro he is on crack & opium. Also known als copium 😂 He doesn't even now what his Point was to begin with 😂

[-] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 18 points 8 months ago

Jesus fucking Christ, do you think we are shipping crates of Benjamins to Ukraine?

Are you really this fucking stupid? Clearly the majority of people in the United States are the dumbest motherfuckers alive, so I just need clarification.

That money is spent here. The money gets pumped into the US economy.

We get rid of ancient military equipment, Ukraine gets a boost, and the US economy gets billions of dollars pumped into it

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 3 points 8 months ago

Mmm no, I’m aware they don’t send money. I certainly never said that. And by spend, I mean on the people, not giving it to weapons manufacturers who definitely aren’t putting that money back into the economy.

[-] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 3 points 8 months ago

Please educated one tell us how many schools do the weapon manufacturers that get these checks build?

[-] smokeysnilas@feddit.org 11 points 8 months ago

The money stays in the US if that's what you meant?

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

Yes. As much as I support Ukraine, it’s a waste of money at this point. Russia can go forever. We need to spend money here to brace for impact.

[-] smokeysnilas@feddit.org 11 points 8 months ago

Russia+NKorea surely can't go longer than US and Europe, look at the numbers in economy, population etc. Even if the US pulls out, Europe on its own would have more than enough resources to outspend Putin. It's a matter of political will, that's all. If Europe would be equally commited to Ukraine then Russia wouldn't stand a chance. So whether it's a waste of money or not now is a question of whether Europe is willing to properly support Ukraine. I guess you could make the point that it's about time we finally decide this, but the means surely are there and at our disposal.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

The key point is “if [they] would”

Europe and the US really don’t want to get involved more than they are. Sure, we can toss them some of our bullets for good measure, but they don’t want boots on the ground.

Russia really could just throw more people at the problem. They’ll draft the whole country before they give up. Putin is that crazy.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Russia actually can't go on forever. There's a reason they're having to buy bottom of the barrel artillery shells from North Korea of all places. They've had gigantic reserves from the cold war to burn through, but they have been burning through it.

Russia can still produce their own stuff and have been ramping up production pretty well. The economy still works well overall. Russians now buy more Chinese goods. Russia still exports enough to get by.

They won’t collapse any time soon. However their offensive capabilities will suffer.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

Putin isn’t gonna just stop.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 8 months ago

of course not, but if things get bad enough for him, he may not have a choice

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

How could they really get bad for him though? He’s pretty old and has control of everything. He’s kinda just being a dick at this point.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 6 points 8 months ago

I mean his military. If it gets ground down badly enough, him ordering them to keep fighting would be of little consequence, because armies fight with weapons and ammunition and manpower, not just on pure will.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

If he tells them to use butter knives and harsh language, they will. They probably won’t be very effective!

[-] Jikim@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago
[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

How what works?

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