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I Want to Give Up (lemmy.sdf.org)
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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

Why don't you guys start a revolution against first-past-the-post? Fascism has far less power that way.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago

We had ranked-choice-voting at the State level on the ballot here in Oregon and voters rejected it by about 60%.

[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Same in my state. I voted against the amendment that banned it but I actually didn’t fully realize it was about ranked choice voting until I checked results. I hate that shit. It makes me so angry.

[-] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Came here to say this as well, and OR is a reliably liberal state.

[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

If we are at the point of solution by revolution, I think our aims should be higher than just first past the post...

[-] ZMoney@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My state just banned ranked choice lol

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Surely all of the revolutionaries online dissuading people from voting Harris will kick into gear and get everyone motivated to change the constitution, fix the electoral system, eliminate capitalism, and obtain gay space communism for all.

[-] TherapyGary 3 points 11 months ago

Most of us have been, and will continue to be, engaging in direct action in our day-to-day lives.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah keep it up because it's obviously going great 👍

[-] TherapyGary 3 points 11 months ago

It is for my community. Liberals being apathetic about the status quo isn't my responsibility

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Sounds great, where exactly is this thriving community? Grand Delusions, MI?

[-] danciestlobster@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

The left endlessly quibbling with each other with definitely not get us there or anywhere. Your beef is with the idiotic trump voters, not people further left than Kamala

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

My beef is with purported leftists online that did their damnedest to dissuade people from voting at all.

[-] danciestlobster@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Well if you want anything to get better you need to find common ground with those people and have a united front against facism. Even if you don't like or agree with them.

The reality is, some people struggled to vote for Kamala, not because she is just as bad (she is obviously not) or because they were paid bad actor agents of the far right, but simply because, despite being the better of two options, she just wasn't left enough to represent their views.

I'm not saying this is the correct approach or they did the right thing here. But the varying degrees of left constantly arguing with each other creates more and more room for far right fascists to trample us. You don't have to agree with them, but you do need to organize with them to make any real change.

It's that, or yell into the Lemmy void ineffectually at people who are closer aligned to you than the actual problem.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The reality is, some people struggled to vote for Kamala, not because she is just as bad (she is obviously not) or because they were paid bad actor agents of the far right, but simply because, despite being the better of two options, she just wasn’t left enough to represent their views.

I hear this all the time on lemmy and reddit and other lefty bubble media despite seeing all of the time in reality that progressive candidates aren't very popular.

Harris ran as a strong progressive in 2020 and she was amongst the first candidates to exit that race. Bernie lost in a head to head matchup with a complete centrist, and Biden had way more people vote for him in the general than Harris did.

I voted for Bernie in 2020. People sat that primary out just like they sat out 2024 apparently. If there's all this massive support for progressive politicians in this country, I'd like to see some evidence of it.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 11 months ago

Better do it now, cause glorious leader Trump will mobilize the military to shut it down quick.
We have Tiananmen Square Massacre at home.

this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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