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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Gazans do not support the people whose bombs are dropping on them right now, no.

I am not helping there be more bombs and more dead.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I enjoy your confidence to speak on behalf of Gazans, especially in a "more bombs on them is fine!" context.

If there are two options, one leading to fewer dead Palestineans and one leading to more, not helping get us to fewer is an immoral choice, which you are making. That's exactly what the evil prevailing quote is about.

I can't make this any more simple for you. You can choose to disregard the reality and consequences of your choices but you should at least have the decency to admit them.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Only if you ascribe to the ideology of lesser evilism, which is a ridiculous ideology.

Suppose someone has rounded up 10 people, and they say, "I'll kill all of these people, unless you kill one of them for me." Is it moral to do that? How about if you do it and he says, "You work for me now, go round up 10 more people for me so I can do this again, or else I'll kill 20." Still moral?

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You're devolving into insane hypotheticals.

Fewer Palestineans die under a Harris term than a trump one and you are refusing to help.

That's the sum total. Have a happy Halloween.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

No matter what you say, or how well you say it… they will either make up some bullshit reductive nonsense, or they’ll side-step the entire point as if you never made it.

They’re here in bad faith. They’re a troll. This is evident in their refusal to even acknowledge the facts being laid out before them.

When one refutes common sense, there’s no longer a reason to respect their point of view.

Just bag on them and move on.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sitting on your hands isn’t as effective as you think it is bud. Hate to break it to you.

But for funzies…. How about you go ahead and find a moment in history where doing nothing at all created the best outcome for anyone or anything.

EDIT: two days later and nothing as I expected.

this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2024
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